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Notes from monthly Open Source Design call #49

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jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

Our monthly Open Source Design call notes will go here! :) If anything is missing, just edit the post. We will have one comment per meeting to keep it readable.

Meeting 1 (October 25th 2016)

With @simonv3 @belenbarrospena @jdittrich & @jancborchardt

(Retweet at https://twitter.com/opensrcdesign/status/790976386982932481)

Next Meetings

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

This thread will have a monthly update on what we do so it’s apt to notify all of @opensourcedesign/people. :)

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Note: I edited your notes to say Tuesday, they said Thursday :)

victoria-bondarchuk commented 7 years ago

Thank you for sharing! I wish I could join but not while i'm in Korean timezone.

Xaviju commented 7 years ago

I can confirm uxbox is in development (I saw a demo yesterday). Current developers are @elhombretecla and @niwinz

evalica commented 7 years ago

@jancborchardt Thank you so much for gathering notes from the meeting since I was unable to participate! For the future maybe we could use Google Hangouts and maybe also record the meetings (just an idea)?

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

FWIW I'm for that but there was pushback from others because it wasn't open - it requires having a google account, and also sharing that google account with other people in the call.

mrphs commented 7 years ago

There's always https://meet.jit.si we could use as an alternative.

eighthave commented 7 years ago

I use https://meet.jit.si a couple times a week for calls, works great. no log-ins needed, works on Firefox and Chrome on all platforms, including mobile.

ei8fdb commented 7 years ago

Can we get a notification of this meeting? I had no idea it happened until I read the notes here.

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

@ei8fdb Yeah! Here's an ICS file you can add to whatever calendar you use.

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Meeting 2 (December 6th 2016))

Meeting: https://talky.io/opensourcedesign

Agenda

  1. Talk to Wikimedia folks @jdittrich.
  2. FOSDEM #41 stuff @evalica.
    1. Proposals: FOSDEM Talks Spreadsheet -- Discuss about the default proposals + Decide on the responsible people + Add them to Penta -- Vote + decide on the final sessions (14-16) and schedule
    2. Stickers #43: Talk about OpenCollective and the stickers design/order -- Agree to spend money on the stickers -- Decide on the stickers logo (Jan got an email from the Open Source Initiative about that btw, we should talk about what to reply) -- See who can do it + Talk about the reimbursement process
    3. Dinner: Discuss about the Designers Dinner on Friday before FOSDEM
  3. OpenCollective Interview questions available here Deadline: 8 Dec

Notes

Participants: evalica, ei8fdb, gillisig, jdittrich, jancborchardt, andreasn, eppfel - Felix, other? Next meeting: 10 January 2017, 19:00 Berlin

  1. Wikimedia: We didn't had any guests from Wikimedia so we postpone it for next meeting.
  2. FOSDEM
    1. Spreadsheet: -- We are going to wait 2 more days to have more votes. After that we will validate the schedule. Deadline: 8 Dec -- We need a volunteer for the "Success Stories from our community" session. Who wants to help? -- Since the sessions will be held on Sunday, it was stated that it would be better to start the schedule at 10:00. What do you prefer: starting at 10? or having 14 talks instead of 12?
    2. Stickers: -- Apparently there is a problem with our logo resemblance with OSI logo. We might need to postpone the print of official stickers until we clarify the issue. -- still ei8fdb is willing to have a very select batch of stickers for FOSDEM with our first logo
    3. Dinner: -- The general opinion is that it would be very nice to meet again at dinner. We would need to create an issue to find out the number of participants and their diet preferences.
  3. OpenCollective Interview: -- We started to answer the questions but we need more help in remembering things. Any help is appreciated in making the text more nice, more funny or more realistic. -- Deadline is 8 Dec, so be fast
andreasn commented 7 years ago

Where can I find more info about next weeks call? Date, time, place?

evalica commented 7 years ago

@andreasn in the issue description, or on the website at http://opensourcedesign.net/events/open-source-design-monthly-online-meeting/

RichardLitt commented 7 years ago

Can we add a public calendar on Google so that we can automatically see this is going to happen?

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

I think that's a good idea. @RichardLitt do you mind setting one up?

Are there any other "open" calendars we can do this for?

RichardLitt commented 7 years ago

It adds overhead; someone has to maintain the calendar. I'd rather not volunteer for that right now, as I am minimally involved in OSD at the moment. I might be able to do this after attending a call, but as I haven't been on one yet and want to see what is up, I don't think it would be the best for me to set up the calendar right now.

mestaritonttu commented 7 years ago

There is an instance of Nextcloud Calendar here: https://framagenda.org/ Provided by Framasoft.

evalica commented 7 years ago

We had the meeting and there were around 7 participants. I've added the summary. We still need help for points 2.i and 3. Deadline is 8 Dec. Help us with votes and more text for the interview. See you next time on 10 Jan 2017.

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Awesome! I'm sorry I couldn't make it. My internet is a dumpster fire. I'll poke at the google docs with the answers if I get a chance :)

Xaviju commented 7 years ago

Thanks for the summary! I've already voted on the spreadsheet. About the logo, I agree with @ei8fdb on having a first batch of the logo (it's a shame if we have to change it). I'd be happy to pay for it if needed.

belenbarrospena commented 7 years ago

Thanks @evalica for taking notes, and to all the people who attended. It is a bit too late for me while in IST.

Couple of comments on the notes:

Since the sessions will be held on Sunday, it was stated that it would be better to start the schedule at 10:00. What do you prefer: starting at 10? or having 14 talks instead of 12?

I agree it would be better to start at 10, but with so many good submissions it would be a pity to discard another 2. So my vote goes to 14 sessions, starting at 9am, although I cringe thinking of the early morning start after all the Saturday beer ;)

Stickers: -- Apparently there is a problem with our logo resemblance with OSI logo. We might need to postpone the print of official stickers until we clarify the issue. -- still ei8fdb is willing to have a very select batch of stickers for FOSDEM with our first logo

I am going to have to disagree with @ei8fdb on this one. I am sure nothing will happen, but I wouldn't even consider chancing it. We can totally wait until the situation with the logo is cleared up. We won't die of not having stickers ;)

The general opinion is that it would be very nice to meet again at dinner. We would need to create an issue to find out the number of participants and their diet preferences.

Issue opened: https://github.com/opensourcedesign/events/issues/54

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

Added my recollections to the history and the other points in the interview questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNrkXNKH-KBFsz9zxn-4DBFS_q25luApbPOdu7XBo7Q/edit @bnvk would be good if you also chime in there cause you were around early on as well. :)

@belenbarrospena regarding the time, since we’re on Sunday and last year it was also a drag in the morning I would say let’s go for 10. Sure we will have less sessions, but what use is more sessions if the first ones (namely the introduction and success stories) are attended by almost no one? ;) That’s why starting at 10 I think is a sensible move, paired with having an entry in the schedule at 9:30 called »Welcome & chatting« so people already arrive.

Regarding the logo I will cc you folks on the email from the Open Source Initiative – sorry for the late notice as I just remembered it then. We’ll keep it positive and hopefully we can keep the logo or only do minimal adjustments. @Xaviju @belenbarrospena @simonv3 @evalica etc.

belenbarrospena commented 7 years ago

@belenbarrospena regarding the time, since we’re on Sunday and last year it was also a drag in the morning I would say let’s go for 10. Sure we will have less sessions, but what use is more sessions if the first ones (namely the introduction and success stories) are attended by almost no one? ;)

@jancborchardt Well, call me an optimist, I am hoping that we'll get the video working this time ;) which means the talks will be there for posterity, even if the room is not full on the day.

I just feel a bit sorry about throwing away good content, that's all. If my session makes it in, I'll happily volunteer for one of the "ghost" morning slots :D

evalica commented 7 years ago

Meeting 3 (January 10th 2017) - Agenda

Meeting: https://talky.io/opensourcedesign

Topics

  1. FOSDEM
  2. Logo Status + OSI Affiliation
  3. Multiple licensing across repos (MIT, AGPL-3.0, Apache-2.0, etc.)
  4. Meeting software: https://jitsi.org/ instead of https://talky.io, or other proposal, mentioned by realitygaps and cketti
  5. Discuss getting 'opensourcedesign' id on Twitter (@ references GitHub and Twitter accounts, but in our case the ids are not the same)
  6. ...
FOSDEM
  1. Schedule Status
  2. Dinner Status
  3. [Group] sessions Status
    1. Our Open Source Design collective by jancborchardt
    2. "Success Stories from our community" session expectations @evalica
      1. Discuss JOB graphs + Success rate
      2. Other sources: Twitter, Google Analytics, ...
      3. OpenHub stats and repo claim
    3. "Feedback" session expectations @evalica
      1. ...
jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

Since people have asked for a public calendar, I added the dates of the meetings as well as the FOSDEM Open Source Design room to a calendar you can subscribe to: :calendar: https://cloud.nextcloud.com/apps/calendar/public/MIFAFLFJADIVX63I :)

(It’s our company instance so I can’t add people to collaborate unfortunately. But if you have a Nextcloud it will be possible to collaborate via federated sharing in the future. If you have any issues or want to contribute, please check out the repository at https://github.com/nextcloud/calendar ;)

evalica commented 7 years ago

Open Collective Interview

URGENT: Deadline Sunday 18 Dec. TASK: Review Draft

Aseem Sood managed to take all our brainstorming notes and create a Draft. So if anyone wants to review it and make comments, feel free to.

The publishing is targeted towards Monday, 19 Dec.

P.S: I've used this issue to announce this since this is the only issue we've talked about this interview, but in the future we should create dedicated issues for such topics.

P.P.S: @jancborchardt I have some comments in there that I would like you to give your opinion on. Ty.

belenbarrospena commented 7 years ago

Looks good to me :)

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

And the article is now up, thanks to Open Collective! Please retweet https://twitter.com/AseemSood_/status/810935321420595200 everyone :bird: :tada: :)

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Meeting 3 (January 10th 2017) - Notes

Participants: Andreas, jancborchardt, Jan Dittrich, Felix/eppfel, evalica, Simon

Summary (feel free to edit and add):

Next Meeting: February 14th

Proposed Agenda: FOSDEM wrap up, OSI initiative

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

And by the way, everyone who is at FOSDEM, feel free to send me your mobile phone number (via email or Twitter dm) so I can add you to our Open Source Design @ FOSDEM group on Signal. :)

gillisig commented 7 years ago

@eppfel here is another potential success story from when I was hired by the guys at 5apps to redesign their widget: https://github.com/remotestorage/remotestorage.js/issues/795

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Bump for awareness that we have a meeting on Tuesday!

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

Remember we have the call today! :)

I'll likely miss it though cause I am at a Nextcloud meetup :/

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Meeting 4 (February 14th 2017)

Meeting: https://meet.jit.si/OpenSourceDesign Participants: evalica, simonv3, Jan D, richlitt, Arul, Ryan Gorley, jdorfman

Agenda:

Notes:

Next meeting: 7 March 2017, 19:00 PM Berlin time

evalica commented 7 years ago

Meeting 5 (March 7th 2017)

Meeting: https://meet.jit.si/OpenSourceDesign Participants: jcb, jan dittrich, belen, elio, charlie, bernard, evalica

Agenda:

Notes:

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

Just as info regarding @elioqoshi’s points in the link:

Become an OSI affiliate. Advantages: We can keep our current logo and are collaborating more with OSI

This has nothing to do with each other. Becoming an affiliate will change nothing about the necessity to change our logo. About the affiliate application, see https://github.com/opensourcedesign/organization/issues/53 I still think that OSI should open-source their logo and give it to the community. But just ignoring is not fair, especially since as designers we have to respect the existing legal aspects too.

(Also, please let’s keep discussions on here and not in some linked documents which might expire or vanish. ;)

elioqoshi commented 7 years ago

Ah, I got that wrong then.

Patrick Masson's last point made sense though so we have to weight our options. Changing our logo to a square instead of a circle would be fine for me. Let's discuss that in the call, Patrick said he would join as well.

evalica commented 7 years ago

Meeting 6 (April 4th 2017)

Meeting: https://meet.jit.si/OpenSourceDesign

Meeting not held.

jancborchardt commented 7 years ago

Added the summary of our call at https://github.com/opensourcedesign/events/issues/49#issuecomment-283646202 ! :) Thanks everyone for attending

massonpj commented 7 years ago

Sorry @jancborchardt, clicked over here from https://github.com/opensourcedesign/organization/issues/53#issuecomment-283941905 but not sure where the notes are that you're referring too.

elioqoshi commented 7 years ago

@massonpj They are at https://github.com/opensourcedesign/events/issues/49#issuecomment-283646202 :)

massonpj commented 7 years ago

@elioqoshi I found a few comments and responded here: https://github.com/opensourcedesign/organization/issues/53#issuecomment-285145655

Is where you are referring?

elioqoshi commented 7 years ago

Yes, that works, thanks so much! Will move over there

massonpj commented 7 years ago

BTW, it's not just you all that I am a jerk with... https://github.com/fossjobs/fossjobs/issues/12

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Calendar of future events is here:

https://cloud.nextcloud.com/apps/calendar/public/MIFAFLFJADIVX63I

Thanks to @jancborchardt

(cc @grahamperrin)

grahamperrin commented 7 years ago

Edited https://github.com/opensourcedesign/events/issues/49#issuecomment-283646202 above to refer to https://github.com/opensourcedesign/organization/issues/53 where a link to 53 was broken.

eppfel commented 7 years ago

Meeting 7 (May 2nd 3rd 2017)

Meeting: https://meet.jit.si/OpenSourceDesign

Postponed for 40 min (19:40 CET) a day (03.May 19:00 CET), because of a flat tire... 🚲

Agenda

ei8fdb commented 7 years ago

(If I've missed something, or got something wrong: feel free to correct it!)

Notes from 3 May 2017 meeting

In attendance today: @jancborchardt @jdittrich @simonv3 @ei8fdb @grahamperrin @evalica @belenbarrospena @ryangorley @eppfel In attendance yesterday: @belenbarrospena @ei8fdb @eppfel @RichardLitt

OSD Summit Venue?

OSD Summit Organisation

Using Discourse

Updates on FSFE and OSI

(opensourcedesign/organization#53 opensourcedesign/organization#88)

Update on partnership with OpenUsability

(opensourcedesign/organization#67)

OSD at CSSConf Berlin

Should we print stickers with the square logo and text?

Other news

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

Awesome, thanks for taking notes @ei8fdb!

Xaviju commented 7 years ago

Thanks for the notes! Btw @simonv3 if you need a hand with the development of the landing page let me know. I'll be happy to help coding. :)