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Before/after comparison of jobs #78

Closed HeikoTietze closed 7 years ago

HeikoTietze commented 7 years ago

I glanced over the jobs and found only weird tables with tasks. Would be hard to convince colleagues from this group without any proof of creativity, quality, professionalism. Maybe it's my fault but a before-after comparison is essential. It would also be very interesting to learn about the average response time until a job is accepted or rejected, taken by an individual, how often a design get revised, and what time is to expect until a project is finished.

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

cc @evalica, who did research on this.

@HeikoTietze, what do you mean with "found only weird tables with tasks"? Can you point to where you see that?

HeikoTietze commented 7 years ago

For instance https://github.com/opensourcedesign/jobs/blob/gh-pages/jobs/2017-03-15-Enhance-UI-Aspects-in-Conversations-app.md but there is also https://github.com/opensourcedesign/jobs/pull/180, which is much nicer. There are several links on the jobs page that may lead to the wrong page.

simonv3 commented 7 years ago

The tables you see in GitHub markdown files are automatically generated by GitHub.

The jobs are visible on the front-end here: http://opensourcedesign.net/jobs/ - that job in particular is here: http://opensourcedesign.net/jobs/jobs/2017-03-15-Enhance-UI-Aspects-in-Conversations-app, and I agree, they could definitely use some design love. Anyone should feel free to submit suggestions / mock-ups / finished designs / actual code changes, etc!

bnvk commented 7 years ago

@HeikoTietze what you observed is a side-effect that there are two methods to add jobs to the job board:

  1. Fork the repo, then sending a pull-request with a hand edited markdown file
  2. http://opensourcedesign.net/jobs/job-form/

Also, referencing 1. you are linking to the "source markdown file" while in case 2. you are linking to the submitted "pull-request" observe, this link:

https://github.com/opensourcedesign/jobs/pull/185

Is the same job you described as "weird tables with tasks" while this is source of the nicer "pull-request"

https://github.com/opensourcedesign/jobs/blob/c98e9d72a57770e2d089bceac58bc9c318f4cfee/jobs/2017-03-03-find-a-solution-to-improve-the-design-of-freecad.md

There are several links on the jobs page that may lead to the wrong page.--

I do know what you mean. However, you're comment:

Would be hard to convince colleagues from this group without any proof of creativity, quality, professionalism. Maybe it's my fault but a before-after comparison is essential.

Makes me unsure you understand what our job-board is doing presently. We're just providing a platform to alert designers of people or projects who need design help- some of this is paying, most is for gratis. It is up to the project and designer to negotiate and agree to work together. Is the functioning of the current job board that unclear to you?

But, yes as @simonv3 says the job board needs to be improved visually and functionally- which means design layouts and code (CSS, JS, HTML).

HeikoTietze commented 7 years ago

@bnvk It's clear how it works and has a lot of room to improve. I tried to express what a potential user expects, and how we could improve things. The platform has also the goal to foster design in OSS so being attractive on all levels is not out of scope :-).

bnvk commented 7 years ago

@bnvk It's clear how it works and has a lot of room to improve.

Yah, we have numerous issues tracking suggestions that just need dev time. I've been recently consolidating them into a "Project" feel free to browse.

https://github.com/opensourcedesign/opensourcedesign.github.io/projects/1

I tried to express what a potential user expects, and how we could improve things.

Are you referring to your comments above? If so, please elaborate on how you suggest improving the job board at http://opensourcedesign.net/job not Github's renderings of markdown files (which we don't control).

If you're a designer, I'd love to see wireframes or such. If you're capable of coding HTML + CSS perhaps we could plan a "Job Board hack day"

bnvk commented 7 years ago

Closing as there is no action items here (and if there was) they should filed on the website repo