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Open source stenotype engine
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Optional steno keyboard overlay #646

Open adiron opened 8 years ago

adiron commented 8 years ago

Classification: Feature (New)

Reproducibility: Not Applicable - N/A

Summary

When first learning steno, it's sometimes very hard to remember which key corresponds to which letter. As "training wheels" for new users, it might be beneficial to have a virtual steno keyboard that shows the keys being pressed as they are pressed on the input device.

This overlay would help in the following ways:

  1. Help memorize the key positions and hopefully develop muscle memory.
  2. Highlight depressed keys, and therefor help the user spot mistakes as they are typed.

Notes

As with all things "training wheels" there's a discussion about whether it contributes to learning or slows it down. Personally, I think that with something with as steep a learning curve as steno, there probably needs to be something to lower the requirements for entry. Since the overlay would take up screen real-estate, I imagine that users will eventually want to turn this off after they get the hang steno.

GuiltyDolphin commented 8 years ago

@adiron What's wrong with the existing stroke (and suggestion) displays? The stroke display will show you which steno keys are being pressed (in the correct order and position), while the suggestion display will show what translations result from the keys (also shows which keys are pressed).

For the display, were you thinking of a pure steno keyboard, or a QWERTY keyboard with the steno positions highlighted?

adiron commented 8 years ago

I don't think so much that there's anything "wrong" with the stroke display, but I think that it can be improved, and that a lot can be said for visual learning aids. It could be useful when demonstrating or teaching steno or when learning individually.

I don't personally think it should display a QWERTY keyboard but rather a steno keyboard (even if using QWERTY-based input). Similar to what happens on this site when you click "always show hints".

GuiltyDolphin commented 8 years ago

@adiron I quite like the idea of using it in demonstrations ("Your thumb rests across these keys and corresponds to the vowels like so..."), and it might be quite good for debugging positions when learning.

Do you think this should be another option for the stroke display? There are already a couple of options so it seems a fairly logical place.

adiron commented 8 years ago

@GuiltyDolphin I agree that the stroke window is a good place place for it. Maybe also with a "pop-out" presentation mode that will make it transparent, floating and without any window decorations.

morinted commented 8 years ago

Benoit Pierre had implemented something like this a while back to offer a visualization of the keymap editor.

Note that the stroke would only get sent to Plover (and the GUI, for display purposes) after it has been released. Does that make sense?

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nsmarkop commented 6 years ago

Does the Plover Layout Display plugin meet this need? https://github.com/morinted/plover_layout_display It has options for adding key labels and whatever layout you want now to visualize input.

memoriasIT commented 4 years ago

Does the Plover Layout Display plugin meet this need? https://github.com/morinted/plover_layout_display It has options for adding key labels and whatever layout you want now to visualize input.

While that plugin is great, it does not show key presses in real time, but last input. Having an option to make it real time could be beneficial so you don't have to be looking at your keyboard and comparing to the layout.

morinted commented 4 years ago

Realtime would require tighter integration with the machine protocol than Plover exposes. Additionally, this information is only available in select protocols -- namely "Keyboard" and "Treal"

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Does the Plover Layout Display plugin meet this need? https://github.com/morinted/plover_layout_display It has options for adding key labels and whatever layout you want now to visualize input.

While that plugin is great, it does not show key presses in real time, but last input. Having an option to make it real time could be beneficial so you don't have to be looking at your keyboard and comparing to the layout.

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