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🆔🏷 The presets and other tagging data used by the iD editor
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Add `hgv` to access field #526

Open arch0345 opened 2 years ago

arch0345 commented 2 years ago

Ideally this should only be visible for highway types where motor vehicles are allowed (ie not footways). Adding hgv would make it easier for mappers to indicate whether or not trucks are allowed and whether through truck traffic is allowed.

Truck access signage is relatively common and can be mapped by looking at street-level imagery. For example:

Screenshot 2022-07-11 135944 hgv=destination

No Trucks Allowed Traffic Sign hgv=no

Other examples can be found on the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hgv#Tagging_Examples

1ec5 commented 2 years ago

Previously openstreetmap/iD#3946.

tyrasd commented 2 years ago

also related: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3945 and #378

RudyTheDev commented 2 years ago

Anecdotally, consider that hgv is used 770K times and horse is used 1.5M times. I have to wonder how much of it is due to iD having the latter field, but not the former (and also it being a weird acronym). Given that access is de jure for legal restriction but a de facto mix of legal and intended/implied/possible use. Personally, I know of a single location in my area that has an actual legal horse=no traffic signed area, and I have not seen a single other use of horse that was tagged for any other reason than "I think horses can('t) go here". Yet every tenth road[citation needed] has a "no hgv" sign -- these are basically all over the place. If anything, I would get rid of the horse field than not have an hgv field. Ideally though, horse should be only shown in countries/regions where it's actually commonplace to have traffic signs for horses and bridleways and such, like UK.

Basically, this sign is everywhere in Europe:

Zeichen_253_-_Verbot_für_Kraftfahrzeuge_mit_einem_zulässigen_Gesamtgewicht,_StVO_1992 svg

AntMadeira commented 1 year ago

This would be a great addition. And imho it even could substitute the horse access field.