Produce a list of mailing lists which can be retired

[Firefishy]

Many of the OpenStreetMap mailing lists can now be retired as the community has moved to other communications channels.

The mailinglist archives will be retained.

Once the list has been produced those mailinglists should be closed to new signups / hidden. If possible there should be an informational message about replacement communication channel if applicable.

[Firefishy]

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za has been retired. Replaced by https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/za/57

[maxerickson]

Looks like imports-us can go (there's 3 messages this year, with 2 of them being about moving/moved to community). It wasn't ever really a policy channel anyway (more a relief valve for talk-us, with the discussion on imports proper being the real way to move an import forward).

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports-us/

[iandees]

I moderate imports, dev, and talk-us mailing lists and would be happy to encourage people to move their posts over to Discourse.

[willemarcel]

@Firefishy The osmcha mailing list can be archived. Thank you!

[Firefishy]

@Firefishy The osmcha mailing list can be archived. Thank you!

Is there a new location? Or just archive it?

[willemarcel]

@Firefishy The mailing list was rarely used. We have a channel in the OSM US slack that is quite active now.

[grischard]

Mailing list activity for the last 24 monthly archives, sorted by replies, then messages, then alphabetically. Because my parsing of email archives is artisanal, the numbers might not be fully accurate, but this gives a good idea of the activity of the lists.

Mailing List	Unique Posters	Total Posts	Total Replies	Avg Thread Length	Max Thread Length
rails-dev	333	5216	4316	4	96
tagging	253	4644	4088	8	95
talk-gb	176	2666	2151	6	57
tile-serving	121	2494	1915	3	31
talk-it	142	1791	1445	5	69
talk-au	95	1552	1334	6	47
talk-fr	160	1656	1265	3	31
talk-cz	143	1823	1224	3	29
talk	200	1303	1038	5	45
talk-hu	75	1035	912	4	38
osmf-talk	130	545	461	5	54
talk-us	87	664	411	3	63
imports	116	502	410	5	61
talk-ca	86	662	405	3	70
talk-de	113	545	326	3	22
talk-ja	41	320	246	3	40
talk-es	72	411	214	2	13
talk-lt	37	224	185	4	14
talk-dk	43	236	168	3	34
talk-ie	36	303	129	2	15
hot	58	285	122	2	19
talk-it-cai	22	123	112	9	36
talk-us-massachusetts	19	142	111	4	9
talk-it-fvg	20	118	85	4	16
talk-se	37	107	83	4	13
talk-be	36	127	81	2	11
gsoc-orga	42	127	76	3	18
talk-at	44	111	72	3	10
imports-us	22	84	67	4	15
legal-talk	26	73	58	5	10
umap	48	104	56	2	6
dev	48	99	52	3	11
talk-gb-westmidlands	13	67	48	3	14
talk-it-lazio	13	71	47	2	5
talk-lv	15	57	42	3	8
talk-ph	19	160	30	2	8
talk-in	20	145	30	2	5
talk-bodensee	9	37	30	2	4
talk-africa	24	242	28	2	11
talk-latam	21	138	28	2	10
osrm-talk	19	38	25	4	13
talk-gb-london	14	37	23	3	5
josm-dev	18	36	23	3	8
talk-it-trentino	13	34	23	3	11
talk-br	25	147	22	2	4
talk-bo	14	133	22	2	4
talk-mg	9	29	22	2	6
talk-si	10	25	21	4	11
talk-tw	16	144	20	2	8
talk-us-newyork	5	30	20	2	5
talk-nl	13	26	20	4	9
talk-hr	10	32	19	3	13
talk-co	15	135	18	2	4
talk-it-piemonte	14	40	18	2	10
talk-fr-bzh	14	33	18	2	8
mailman	1047	1177	14	2	62
talk-pe	8	34	14	2	6
photon	11	20	13	3	7
talk-gh	15	147	12	2	4
talk-uy	5	17	11	3	12
talk-ni	7	15	11	3	9
talk-pt	15	129	10	2	3
talk-bd	11	24	10	2	3
talk-mx	12	116	9	2	3
talk-cn	12	95	9	2	4
talk-is	8	16	9	2	5
talk-pr	5	10	9	10	10
talk-ro	10	19	8	2	5
science	9	18	8	2	3
talk-it-lombardia	7	13	8	2	3
talk-us-sfbay	8	10	8	3	6
talk-scotland	5	107	7	2	6
talk-transit	8	8	7	3	4
historic	9	11	6	3	4
talk-et	5	9	6	2	3
talk-ht	9	105	5	2	5
talk-asia	13	23	5	2	2
talk-it-veneto	6	8	5	3	4
talk-tz	9	182	4	2	4
talk-cl	7	106	4	1	1
talk-pacific	7	12	4	2	2
accessibility	10	11	4	2	2
talk-ar	4	9	4	2	2
talk-ee	8	9	4	2	3
talk-cat	6	7	4	2	3
talk-np	4	6	4	2	4
taginfo-dev	6	260	3	2	6
talk-ko	7	123	3	2	3
talk-sn	9	105	3	2	2
talk-pl	6	103	3	2	3
hot-francophone	7	101	3	1	1
talk-ug	7	97	3	2	2
talk-tr	8	70	3	2	3
talk-fi	4	9	3	2	3
talk-blr	1	4	3	4	4
talk-ke	4	175	2	2	4
talk-cm	6	101	2	1	1
talk-rs	3	9	2	1	1
talk-vi	4	6	2	2	3
talk-cd	5	5	2	1	1
talk-ve	4	5	2	2	2
osm2world	3	4	2	1	1
routing	4	4	2	2	2
talk-ba	3	4	2	2	2
talk-ng	2	4	2	2	2
indoor	3	3	2	3	3
talk-bi	1	2	2	2	2
talk-cu	6	99	1	2	2
diversity-talk	4	10	1	1	1
geocoding	5	7	1	2	2
talk-za	4	5	1	2	2
talk-cr	2	4	1	1	1
talk-gr	3	4	1	2	2
talk-ne	3	3	1	2	2
local-chapters	2	2	1	2	2
talk-baltics	2	2	1	2	2
talk-hn	1	2	1	1	1
talk-sa	2	2	1	2	2
talk-tn	5	99	0	1	1
talk-ma	2	8	0	1	1
talk-lk	3	3	0	1	1
talk-tg	1	3	0	1	1
announce	2	2	0	1	1
dev-fr	2	2	0	1	1
talk-do	2	2	0	1	1
talk-lu	2	2	0	1	1
talk-py	2	2	0	1	1
dev-italia	1	1	0	1	1
machine-learning	1	1	0	1	1
talk-al	1	1	0	1	1
talk-bj	1	1	0	1	1
talk-carib	1	1	0	1	1
talk-ge	1	1	0	1	1
talk-it-liguria	1	1	0	1	1
talk-lb	1	1	0	1	1
talk-nc	1	1	0	1	1
talk-td	1	1	0	1	1
talk-us-nps	1	1	0	1	1
teachosm	1	1	0	1	1
advisors	0	0	0	0	0
design	0	0	0	0	0
gpstogo	0	0	0	0	0
gpstogo-announce	0	0	0	0	0
graphhopper	0	0	0	0	0
healthsites	0	0	0	0	0
hot-announce	0	0	0	0	0
jeography	0	0	0	0	0
learnosm-coord	0	0	0	0	0
legal-general	0	0	0	0	0
local-contacts	0	0	0	0	0
lorodux-dev	0	0	0	0	0
mapcss	0	0	0	0	0
maproulette	0	0	0	0	0
merkaartor	0	0	0	0	0
moderation	0	0	0	0	0
newbies	0	0	0	0	0
openhiking	0	0	0	0	0
osm-professional	0	0	0	0	0
osm4j	0	0	0	0	0
osmcha-dev	0	0	0	0	0
osmf-announce	0	0	0	0	0
osmf-membership	0	0	0	0	0
osmosis-dev	0	0	0	0	0
outdoor-natural	0	0	0	0	0
party	0	0	0	0	0
photos	0	0	0	0	0
potlatch-dev	0	0	0	0	0
rebuild	0	0	0	0	0
sotm-asia	0	0	0	0	0
strategic	0	0	0	0	0
tagging-fr	0	0	0	0	0
talk-af	0	0	0	0	0
talk-alps	0	0	0	0	0
talk-bf	0	0	0	0	0
talk-cf	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ci	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ec	0	0	0	0	0
talk-gb-eastanglia	0	0	0	0	0
talk-gb-midanglia	0	0	0	0	0
talk-gb-oxoncotswolds	0	0	0	0	0
talk-gb-thenorth	0	0	0	0	0
talk-gl	0	0	0	0	0
talk-id	0	0	0	0	0
talk-il	0	0	0	0	0
talk-iq	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ir	0	0	0	0	0
talk-it-appulo-lucana	0	0	0	0	0
talk-it-bici	0	0	0	0	0
talk-it-marche	0	0	0	0	0
talk-it-sardinia	0	0	0	0	0
talk-it-sicilia	0	0	0	0	0
talk-it-southtyrol	0	0	0	0	0
talk-jo	0	0	0	0	0
talk-kg	0	0	0	0	0
talk-kosovo	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ly	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ml	0	0	0	0	0
talk-mm	0	0	0	0	0
talk-mn	0	0	0	0	0
talk-mw	0	0	0	0	0
talk-my	0	0	0	0	0
talk-nz	0	0	0	0	0
talk-oceania	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ps	0	0	0	0	0
talk-ru	0	0	0	0	0
talk-sc	0	0	0	0	0
talk-so	0	0	0	0	0
talk-sy	0	0	0	0	0
talk-us-bayarea	0	0	0	0	0
talk-us-ga	0	0	0	0	0
talk-us-maine	0	0	0	0	0
talk-us-pugetsound	0	0	0	0	0
talk-zm	0	0	0	0	0
talk-zw	0	0	0	0	0
tilesathome	0	0	0	0	0
welcomewg	0	0	0	0	0

[pnorman]

As a start, I would say any lists without any posts in the last two years can be archived. That's an easy way to handle half of them.

[grischard]

I would even say that any lists with no replies, except maybe announce, can be retired instantly with no loss of discussion.

[Nakaner]

talk-at had its last postings in July and a single posting in October. The forum is more active. I think that we can close the list if there will be no substantial posting activity within the next months apart from cross-postings.

[1ec5]

talk-vi – the mailing list for Vietnam(ese), not the U.S. Virgin Islands – has had a few messages lately, but it’s usually only one or two a year, and it’s been like that for over a decade. The mailing list has never been much of a success. I’ve proposed closing down this list and replacing it with a forum subcategory (to complement the much more active Facebook group).

[norbertwenzel]

talk-at had its last postings in July and a single posting in October. The forum is more active. I think that we can close the list if there will be no substantial posting activity within the next months apart from cross-postings.

Moderator of talk-at here. I support archiving this list in favor of the new Community Forum.

[hbogner]

Croatia community supports archiving talk-hr list in favor of the new Community Forum.

[systemed]

talk-gb-oxoncotswolds@, legal-talk@, and potlatch-dev@ are all lists I nominally administer and they can all be closed. tagging@ should stick around for a few more months.

Really the only English-language lists that it seems worth keeping around at this point are tagging@, talk-gb@ and talk-au@. announce@ is probably worth keeping for the principle of the thing.

[Firefishy]

I've posted the steps the list admin (or sysadmin) need to perform the archive a list: https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/wiki/Retiring-a-Mailing-list