openworm / ChannelWorm

Tools and curated datasets to build quantitative models of C. elegans ion channels
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Collect data for voltage-dependent ion channels #8

Open VahidGh opened 9 years ago

VahidGh commented 9 years ago

Collect data for these voltage-gated/calcium-activated ion channels with priority of expression in muscle cells and motor neurons:

For Kv1, Kv4, and Cav1, data and related models are available, we just need to insert the parameters into the PyOW.

slarson commented 9 years ago

We need to set up a dropbox folder with PDFs for these channels and have a google sheet that links to each one. PDFs need to definitely have I/V curves for digitizing purposes.

VahidGh commented 9 years ago

I set up this folder with related references. Some of them do not have I/V curves, but would be useful for citing purposes.

VahidGh commented 9 years ago

I've almost finished the first version of the fitter. Now I need some reliable data from digitized IClamp, VClamp, and I/V curves to start testing my code. Any kind of help would be appreciated.

travs commented 9 years ago

The channels we're looking at are listed in this spreadsheet, which takes from this folder

stripathy commented 9 years ago

A few questions I had while going through ~5 papers for channels data:

  1. What's the data we're looking for? Data from cultured c-elegans neurons? From cells in which a single channel had been expressed (like a xenopus oocyte cell)? What's the right way of encoding either of these?
  2. What are the different current quantification types (I/V V/I G/Gmax, etc)? Which are useful? How do you encode these?
VahidGh commented 9 years ago

@stripathy, thanks for your comment. As for the cell type, we are going to store data related to any kind of experiment. As we might generate different models for a single channel, and decide on the best one during a higher level optimizations (C302 projec).

Some effects based on different experimental conditions (such as the cell type, age, temperature, etc) are going to be saved for further analysis (some of them are not still included in the current data model, but will be very soon).

And regarding the different types of figure you mentioned, the approach is to simulate the original voltage- or current- clamp (or even both), that the experiment is based on, and then generate each of the plots that are available in the literature to compare with the simulated one (also for the evaluation purposes during the optimization phase). But currently the priority is with I/V curve, which is more common.

stripathy commented 9 years ago

Regarding the issue of what IV curves are useful for the modeling team (e.g., is representing current as "normalized current" OK, is representing current as picoAmps better, etc), we should ask what needs to be extracted so that the IV curve can be represented in neuroML.

VahidGh commented 9 years ago

@stripathy, Actually I've considered a parameter named toSI for these kind of conversions, but the 'normalized current' that we saw in that paper was so rare, the first time I've ever seen in an article! Will consider an special case for this one. But in general, we consider SI units for the final result (with some pico, mili, etc for simpler showing) and what is considered in the original paper for comparison and evaluation purposes.

travs commented 9 years ago

This is broken down into #71 #72 and #39.

We can close this when those are closed, and any further discussion can be redirected to one of those issues.

travs commented 9 years ago

Just closed the remaining issues on this one, so as mentioned in the previous comment, I'm closing it now.

VahidGh commented 9 years ago

@travs, I think it is done when the above-mentioned channels and related papers are digitized and available through the app for further fittings/modeling.

travs commented 9 years ago

@VahidGh Sure, we'll leave it open then. May help to have a checklist so we can see how far we are with this, and can know when to close it.