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MS Windows #886

Closed tsatatwer closed 3 years ago

tsatatwer commented 5 years ago

It is possible to download MS Windows builds.

shelajev commented 5 years ago

You can obtain a preview build for Windows that has the Graal compiler enabled from the OTN page, but it doesn't include the languages or the native image support.

When we have working Windows builds, one would be able to download them from the normal download locations.

tsatatwer commented 5 years ago

That is not a clear answer at all and sorry to say I feel it is a diverting one , and before you close this issue I ask you kindly at least give us an estimating time about windows support status and when windows will be available for download??????. Why windows excluded from start up although there are many many developers working with java under windows environment sorry to say that but really bizarre.

shelajev commented 5 years ago

I'm sorry that you feel this is a diverting answer, it wasn't my intention and I'm sorry we misunderstood each other. Please note that your original issue description said nothing about estimated times or support, which are two different questions as well.

Windows is not excluded, it's a technical problem, there are currently no working builds of GraalVM yet where all necessary components would work on Windows. For example the native-image utility doesn't work on Windows yet, and it's a part of the GraalVM download, so currently there are no full builds for Windows. We're actively working on making native images support Windows, but there's no estimate for when it's going to be done. Perhaps it'll take months rather than years or days, if this helps.

I understand your frustration, and we know there are many developers working on Windows, so when we have the builds that actually work there, we'll provide them.

Which GraalVM use-cases on Windows are you looking forward to the most?

PS. I'll reopen this issue so anyone who needs Windows support could provide information what are they looking for, and have a place for a discussion.

neontorrent commented 5 years ago

Thanks for reopening. To me I personally would like to see native image running on Windows, to avoid bundling whole JRE with small desktop apps.

I understand there are Windows servers, and possibly Graal is targetting to solve other problems, but this is just my use case.

May I know what's the obstacles of Windows builds right now?

tsatatwer commented 5 years ago

Thank you indeed for reopen this issue , and I my self as a java developer would like to use native image feature and will use it in my software and I know many developers as well sharing me the same view and as you mention we have really big frustration and disappointing that there are builds for other OS and NOT windows so I join my voice to @texasbruce and ask the same question :

May I know what's the obstacles of Windows builds right now?

shelajev commented 5 years ago

The native image utility currently doesn't work on Windows. It fails to produce a working Windows executable. One reason for that is that the executable is native, which means it's platform specific, which explains how it can work on Linux and not work on Windows. The implementation of the Windows system calls is not complete yet.

Having a build where some components don't work is not ideal, that's why there's only a preview build available on the OTN which have the components that work: the Graal compiler, but not the others.

tsatatwer commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the answer , as developers we know that native image is OS specific , one of your colleges estimate windows build will be available at the end of 2018 or beginning of 2019 check this #663 . Can you kindly give us some estimation on when the implementation of the Windows system calls will be complete????.

neomatrix369 commented 5 years ago

I think it was a clear response from @shelajev, the OTN page also mentions on the same grounds @tsatatwer

You can already start playing with build scripts at https://github.com/neomatrix369/awesome-graal/ for Linux and MacOS, and help with the Windows version

tsatatwer commented 5 years ago

Hi ,

@shelajev I am still waiting an answer please .

tsatatwer commented 5 years ago

Hi @shelajev ,

can be closed.