Closed ebocher closed 8 months ago
Hello,
Any news about this possibility ? It would be very helpful for our applications.
Thank you, Best Regards,
Jean Wurtz
For this issue, we can pick up the tag diameter_crown (even though it is only 1.34% of all trees). However, we need a default value for other trees. @wurtzj @ebocher what do you think about 4 m ?
Not sure to understand. Do you want to add the tree information to the fraction of vegetation ? Or do you want to have a tree layers to improve the SVF indicator ?
The idea is mainly to add some more vegetation fraction (which might superimpose with roads)
Hi @j3r3m1,
The approximation seems roughly correct to me. Emilie Bernard who worked on the vegetation database in TEB used a linear relationship between tree height and tree crown based on observations : TREE_CROWN = 0, 4847 ∗ TREE_HEIGHT Based on a tree height of 10 meters (which is the mean of tree height computed by Emilie) it gives a crown of ~4.8m.
Maybe you can also collect some information on the type of vegetation (leaf cycle and leaf type) and on it's height. Maybe doing a majoritarian mean for the type of vegetation ? Maybe if you can get the tree height you can compute the crown using this linear relationship ?
Emilie Bernard who worked on the vegetation database in TEB used a linear relationship between tree height and tree crown based on observations : TREE_CROWN = 0, 4847 ∗ TREE_HEIGHT
Sousa and Gorlé (2019) found a slightly different relation (TREE_HEIGHT = 5 + 0,5 ∗TREE_CROWN) but it was based on very small sample of trees (35)
Based on a tree height of 10 meters (which is the mean of tree height computed by Emilie) it gives a crown of ~4.8m.
Excellent ! We can round to 5.
Maybe you can also collect some information on the type of vegetation (leaf cycle and leaf type) and on it's height. Maybe doing a majoritarian mean for the type of vegetation ?
Do you mean use a default value being the majoritarian mean when the type is missing ?
Maybe if you can get the tree height you can compute the crown using this linear relationship ?
Yes this is definitely an option if we have the tree height but not the tree crown width but both tree height and tree crown width are quite rare anyway.
Sousa, Jorge, et Catherine Gorlé. « Computational Urban Flow Predictions with Bayesian Inference: Validation with Field Data ». Building and Environment 154 (1 mai 2019): 13‑22. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.buildenv.2019.02.028.
Do you mean use a default value being the majoritarian mean when the type is missing ?
Yes.
In order to integrate the trees to improve the vegetation fraction, we need to :
The diameter_crown will be used to compute the fraction.
It seems quite complicated to deal with a new layer, especially since in the future we would like to maybe merge many of the natural layers into one. For a first version, I would rather go for including directly the tree vegetation into the existing vegetation layer. We do not define the height yet, we can think about that in the future.
Duplicated with #686
Extract OSM trees and use the new layer to better characterize the fraction of vegetation. It'd be interesting for urban areas @j3r3m1