Open AisDiallo opened 10 months ago
Thanks, @AisDiallo - someone on the IATI support team will take a look at this.
@siwhitehouse - assigning to you for now. (Let me know if there's a better workflow for this and similar issues.)
This same issue was discussed two years ago https://github.com/org-id/register/issues/486
It was agreed by UNICEF that this does not foster good practice in the publication of good and useful open data
@stevieflow @siwhitehouse , thanks for sharing this thread that is useful. However, would you please share in these instances, where do we find one master file of all organizations that are officially registered and are not iati publishers. We understand that there is a list for Governments but what about CSOs, or other types of implementing partners?
Thanks, Aissatou
Thanks @AisDiallo
where do we find one master file of all organizations that are officially registered
Where would these organisations be "registered"?
One of the most important pieces of information to be retrieved from IATI is the ability to see what activities are being done by which organization, where these activities are taking place and what results are being achieved. Crucial for this is the ability to uniquely identify an organization. E.g. to answer the question "How much funding does NORWEGIAN CHURCH AID receive from all donors" presupposes that NORWEGIAN CHURCH AID can be uniquely identified in IATI. Therefore, it is i.m.o. unacceptable that donor specific organization identifiers are added to the IATI standard. There is only one "NORWEGIAN CHURCH AID" organization in reality and therefore there should exist only one organization identifier in IATI. Allowing multiple identifiers for the same organization is detrimental to data quality and the usability of IATI.
I therefore strongly advise to reject this request.
Thanks, Herman
Thanks @AisDiallo
where do we find one master file of all organizations that are officially registered
Where would these organisations be "registered"?
Thanks @stevieflow. We agree with you on the principle of having one identifier per organization. However, our question is how do we reference organizations that are not iati publishers?
@AisDiallo I do appreciate that this is a tricky issue, which is pushed further by the @publishwhatyoufund 2024 Aid Transparency Index methodology,
This requires that participating-org and transaction/receiver-org should have a reference https://github.com/pwyf/2024-Index-indicator-definitions/issues/29
As it stands, IATI (the initiative) does not supply or maintain a list of organisations that are not publishers. This would be a monumental, and never ending, task.
Certainly, the "XM-DAC" (aka CRS Channel Codes) is one source of references for organisations involved in international development and humanitarian action. The codeforIATI volunteers have helpfully pull this into a searchable list
Of course that that does not encompass every single organisation. The org-id.guide protocol provides a methodology to help reference organisations from a multitude of public registries. Using that does also imply that any IATI publisher knows with which body where their partner is registered, however (and has that information in their systems).
Aid Transparency Index pressures aside, it would be very helpful for IATI publishers and stakeholders to form a Working Group (for example) to discuss approaches to this common issue.
Hi @stevieflow and @AisDiallo - we discussed this issue yesterday with UNICEF and @AisDiallo directed us to this thread.
I think the Working Group is a good idea - how do you suggest we go about forming this? It could begin as an online discussion among IATI stakeholders. Is IATI Connect the best place to do this?
Please add @sgadamm@unicef.org in this discussion as she will be taking over on this work.
Thanks, Aissatou
Hi,
As part of IATI requirements on networked data publication, we are requesting the creation of participating org references for UNICEF's implementing partners. Please find attached the list including the Implementing Partner's and IDs that we would like to register.
LIST OF UNICEF'S IP TO REGISTER_V2.xlsx
Please do let us know in case you have further questions: aisdiallo@unicef.org
Best, Aissatou
NOTE
As of 18th Dec 2019, we (Open Data Service Co-operative) are not currently adding new, unsolicited entries to org-id while we focus our efforts on improving the service. Some open data standards have made arrangements to add fully researched org-id entries. Requests from those organisations will be dealt with under those arrangements; please make sure you mention the open data standard related to your request or proposal (e.g. 'OCDS', '360Giving', 'BODS' etc.). See the root README.md for more information.
Request
What open data standard are you working with? (e.g. 'OCDS', '360Giving', 'BODS' etc.)
What type of organization do you want identifiers for? [ Government / NGO or Charity / Government / other]
In which countries are the organizations you want identifiers for based?:
Do you have examples of organizations you need identifiers for?
Proposal
What open data standard are you working with? (e.g. 'OCDS', '360Giving', 'BODS' etc.)
The name of the list (or the organization that manages the list)
A suggested code for the list (optional)
A short description of the list
The country or countries that the list covers
The legal form or organizations that the list covers
Any specific sectors that the list covers
A URL for information on the list, and a URL for looking up identifiers (if available)
Any information on available open data copies of this list
One or more examples of identifier from this list, and how you found them
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