Closed ul5255 closed 9 years ago
I've integrated your update. Can you provide better attribution information?
Thanks, Dale!
Re: Attribution Information My name is Uwe LANGE from Germany. Would it be sufficient to update my Github profile?
A more general question:
What is your goal with pijFORTHos? I am looking for a bare metal Forth which is hosted in Raspberry Pi and execution speed close to what is achieveable with hand-written assembler.
I experimented with pijFORTHos. As a starting point I wanted to bit-bang a single wire protocol (shortest pulse width 5us, max. 10% jitter) to one of the GPIO pins. While I got it working the code I ended up with is rather ugly for the following reasons:
I measured several scenarios with a logic analyzer hooked up to a GPIO pin. If I inline all words and CONSTANTs manually then I get a maximum pin toggle frequency of 1MHz. I'd say this is an order of magnitude less than what I want. If you have access to a logic analyzer you can try for yourself using your code from blinker.f: the busy waiting 'us' word works reliably only for IIRC 7us and up.
I'd like to change at least two things in pijFORTHos, both with more or less impact: 1) change from indirect threaded code to subroutine threaded code to support factoring of code w/o wasting so much time w/ stack shuffling 2) make the colon compiler smarter with regards to inlining of small words to further reduce stack shuffling
and possibly
3) experiment with keeping TOS in a register
Would yo be interested in such work? If yes, I'd try to transform the pijFORTHos code base. If no, I would probably start from scratch and just use part of your code base (Makefile, loadmap) as a starting point (with proper attribution of course).
Let me know.
Cheers, Uwe.
Analysis of what happens when using CONSTANT:
defword "CONSTANT",8,,CONSTANT .int WORD @ get the name (the name follows CONSTANT) .int CREATE @ make the dictionary entry .int DOCOL, COMMA @ append _DOCOL (the codeword field of this word) .int TICK, LIT, COMMA @ append the codeword LIT .int COMMA @ append the value on the top of the stack .int TICK, EXIT, COMMA @ append the codeword EXIT .int EXIT @ Return.
in high level Forth:
: CONSTANT ( n -- ) WORD CREATE
DOCOL ,
' LIT ,
,
' EXIT , ;
analysis of what will happen during run time:
CFA DOCOL --> defconst "DOCOL",5,,DOCOL,_DOCOL _DOCOL --> PUSHRSP FIP --> str FIP, [RSP, #-4]! add FIP, r0, #4
r0 has the CFA, so we advance by one cell to the DFA
DFA LIT --> ldr r1, [FIP], #4 PUSHDSP r1 --> str r1, [DSP, #-4]! NEXT --> b _NEXT
[...]
ldr r0, [FIP], #4 ldr r1, [r0] bx r1 n EXIT --> POPRSP FIP --> ldr FIP, [RSP], #4 NEXT --> b _NEXT
[...]
ldr r0, [FIP], #4 ldr r1, [r0] bx r1
condensed:
str FIP, [RSP, #-4]! add FIP, r0, #4 ldr r1, [FIP], #4 @ fetch the CONSTANTs value str r1, [DSP, #-4]! @ push it on the data stack b _NEXT
[...]
ldr r0, [FIP], #4 ldr r1, [r0] bx r1
[...]
ldr FIP, [RSP], #4 b _NEXT
[...]
ldr r0, [FIP], #4 ldr r1, [r0] bx r1
while in essense it just needs to do this (inline the LIT actions/defcode):
ldr r1, [FIP], #4 @ fetch the CONSTANTs value str r1, [DSP, #-4]! @ push it on the data stack b _NEXT
[...]
ldr r0, [FIP], #4 ldr r1, [r0] bx r1
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. August 2014 um 00:12 UhrVon: "Dale Schumacher" notifications@github.comAn: organix/pijFORTHos pijFORTHos@noreply.github.comCc: ul5255 uwe_lange@web.deBetreff: Re: [pijFORTHos] Update for Raspberry Pi Model B+ (#4)
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here are my notes for the GPIO pin toggle timings (measured with a logic analyzer connected to GPIO16):
\ for test purposes we hard-wire the Si504 to GPIO16 16# 20200004 CONSTANT GPFSEL1 16# 001C0000 CONSTANT GPIO16_FSEL 16# 00040000 CONSTANT GPIO16_OUT
GPFSEL1 @ GPIO16_FSEL INVERT AND GPIO16_OUT OR GPFSEL1 !
16# 2020001C CONSTANT GPSET0 16# 20200028 CONSTANT GPCLR0 16# 00010000 CONSTANT GPIO16_PIN
: +Si504 GPIO16_PIN GPSET0 ! ; : -Si504 GPIO16_PIN GPCLR0 ! ;
: t1 \ just toggle the pin as fast as we can -- 2.5us between toggles -Si504 +Si504 -Si504 +Si504 -Si504 +Si504 -Si504
+Si504 -Si504 +Si504 -Si504 +Si504 -Si504 +Si504 -Si504
+Si504 ;
\ let's try and make this faster: Looking at jonesforth.s
\ we notice that CONSTANT is a surprisingly time-intensive
\ operation. Let's inline those constants in our +
BASE @ HEX
: +Si504-fast 00010000 2020001C ! ; : -Si504-fast 00010000 20200028 ! ;
BASE !
: t2 \ this brings it down to 1.5us between toggles -Si504-fast +Si504-fast -Si504-fast +Si504-fast -Si504-fast +Si504-fast -Si504-fast
+Si504-fast -Si504-fast +Si504-fast -Si504-fast +Si504-fast -Si504-fast +Si504-fast -Si504-fast
+Si504-fast ;
\ How much overhead do we have because of the funcion calls to
\ +/-
BASE @ HEX
: t3 \ this brings it down to 1.0us between toggles, so function \ calls cost 500ns in this Forth version 00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C ! 00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C ! 00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C !
00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C ! 00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C ! 00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C ! 00010000 20200028 ! 00010000 2020001C !
00010000 20200028 ! ;
BASE !
You are always welcome to create a fork and explore a different direction in design-space. I intend to stick with the threaded model.
I'm not sure FORTH is the right platform for your application. However, if you still want to use FORTH, I would recommend creating a few low-level words implemented directly in assembly-language.
As I mentioned in the blinker tutorial, it is common to build up a DSL of FORTH words, and use them to construct your application. When you find that some words are performance-critical, you can always re-write those words in assembly. I did just that with many of the original JonesFORTH definitions.
Also, consider the XMODEM file upload. It would certainly be possible to write the whole thing in FORTH, and it would probably have adequate performance. But I found it easier to write the protocol in C instead. YMMV.
Would someone be willing to vector "emit" to use PI's screen & "key" to use pi's usb at boot-up?
Dale, here is an update to part of your blinker example. This now works on Raspberry Pi B+. This model has the LED moved to GPIO pin #47. Also the logic here is that the LED goes ON when you set the pin. Hope this helps, Uwe.
16# 20200010 CONSTANT GPFSEL4 \ GPIO function select (pins 40..49) 16# 00E00000 CONSTANT GPIO47_FSEL \ GPIO pin 47 function select mask 16# 00200000 CONSTANT GPIO47_OUT \ GPIO pin 47 function is output GPFSEL4 @ \ read GPIO function selection GPIO47_FSEL INVERT AND \ clear function for pin 47 GPIO47_OUT OR \ set function to output GPFSEL4 ! \ write GPIO function selection
16# 20200020 CONSTANT GPSET1 \ GPIO pin output set (pins 32..53) 16# 2020002C CONSTANT GPCLR1 \ GPIO pin output clear (pins 32..53) 16# 00008000 CONSTANT GPIO47_PIN \ GPIO pin 47 set/clear : +gpio47 GPIO47_PIN GPSET1 ! ; \ set GPIO pin 47 : -gpio47 GPIO47_PIN GPCLR1 ! ; \ clear GPIO pin 47 : LED_ON +gpio47 ; \ turn on ACT/OK LED set 47) : LED_OFF -gpio47 ; \ turn off ACT/OK LED (clear 47)