Backlinks & Transclusion

[washere]

• I have searched for existing issues that may be the same as or related to mine.

The biggest shake up in the history of outlining took place in the last six months or so. First Roam Research, then Obsidian, then org-roam, then Athens Research and many more. Search YouTube for them if you have not tried them. All created for sophisticated Backlinking. And now Dynalist introduced it too.

Orgzly will have these features too, best to start planning:

Backlinking

Transclusion

They're both unavoidable. Orgzly is best, let's keep it that way.

[yqu212]

Perhaps this is related to https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android/issues/617.

The initial implementation can be a button to copy or create id as proposed in https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android/issues/617#issuecomment-541344695 and a button to search the id of the current note for convenience.

[daraul]

I've been hoping for a way to create a new notebook by sharing to orgzly, similar to how roam-ref protocol works.

Backlinks in addition to that would be beautiful.

[yqu212]

@nevenz I want to use orgzly to manage my notes in one-note-per-file style. The only worry is whether orgzly has the ability to handle a large number of notes (maybe more thatn 10000 files)?

[washere]

Backlinking plus Transclusion is more than a mere hyper-link between notes.

Together they are a manager. Like a RDBMS or CMS or Wiki etc. Also why many wiki flavors (tiddly variants etc etc) I didn't mention are incorporating BL+Trans attend.

Also Which is why the Organized note taking apps I mentioned in the OP:

• Started off with BL/Trans systems (not just mere links) that offer Management & Complex viewing systems of those links

• Each of those apps progressed wildly to very sophisticated link Management within a short few months

• This is like hot-housing a newly opened up evolutionary pocket where rapid progress happens because the new evolved area has so much potential

• It's not just about presenting data. Nor just links. It is about very advanced presentation of interconnection between data (notes) whereby a higher dimension view (of interconnections, not just notes) becomes available to have: fast cross_reference, manage, complex views, filtering, quick views of multi notes etc etc.

The ground of interconnected note taking changed in the last few months. It will never go back and will only progress to higher planes. We ignore this at our peril. We have to evolve.

Many struggle to understand what these changes are, even amongst those that understand somewhat, many underestimate the significance, future potential & current advanced use already utilized by some users. It takes time to sink in and fully appreciate what is happening in this new area and so fast too.

[Ypot]

Maybe orgmode should have this feature first. Then orgzly could integrate it maintaining its bidirectional compatibility.

BTW an involution seems to be happening when using orgmode with the maxim "one file, one note".

[lytex]

You can use backlinks now, although is a rather manual process but should be easy to automatize:

• If the note has an ID and no CUSTOM_ID, simply search that ID
• If the note has a CUSTOM_ID and no ID, simply search [[#<custom_id>

[nevenz]

I want to use orgzly to manage my notes in one-note-per-file style. The only worry is whether orgzly has the ability to handle a large number of notes (maybe more thatn 10000 files)?

@yqu212: Testing something like this would be useful. Total syncing time might suffer a bit due to the additional overhead of syncing individual files. And I imagine that the Notebooks view would become pretty unmanageable.

[yqu212]

@nevenz That's what I was worried about. Now I just want a convenient way to create Backlink in orgzly. A button to copy id is enough. It is best if more convenient workflow is supported.

[agzam]

Maybe orgmode should have this feature first.

Org-roam by itself has already grown to a complex, sophisticated system with many features. I don't think it will ever "officially" become part of Org-mode. However, the benefits are staggering, and the workflow is literally eye-opening. As it grows and more people change their workflows to the "roam-style", the need for a mobile app only intensifies. It would be nice if Orgzly's core contributors considered slowly adding specific features to make it more compatible with Org-roam. And do it before someone so desperate starts building an Org-roam mobile app, fragmenting the community efforts even further. We (Org-mode users) don't have a large user base, having fewer but more solid apps would work better, rather than building a bunch of lousy clones.