orontee
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2 years ago @canddoki Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Handling the play- and add-button in Argos is, in my opinion, still a bit difficult for the children and me too ;-). It's also really difficult to implement and even make it usable for a touchscreen. Below are a few thoughts...
I don't understand what you mean by "It's also really difficult to implement". Could you elaborate?
For example Iris and iTunes solve this with a bar on the bottom, that shows what’s now playing, player-controls, etc.. But I think for this age group and me, it’s not the optimal solution.
Yes, I made the same analysis. It consumes too much screen space too. That's the reason why I introduced a "Playing" tab in Argos: To avoid repeating the playing controls in albums and playlists views.
An idea could be the strictly split between simple hearing of an album and queuing resp. playlist management.
I don't understand how queuing could be separated from albums or playlist. One must select tracks to be enqueued. But I am not sure I understand correctly.
On top of the list there are buttons for selecting / deselecting tracks, add these tracks or adding the hole album to the queue. If the selection-button was clicked, every track gets a check-box and can selected or deselected. Press add-tracks all selected tracks are added to the queue or press play and all selected tracks will be played simply. Every action after the begin of selection stops the selection mode and resets the button.
Multiple selection of tracks in album and playlist views has landed on master branch few days ago. It's not implemented exactly as you suggest but please try it. That said you'll have to abandon the "single-click" option... Honestly the way multiple selection is currently handled is provided by the GTK toolkit, it's standard and I am not convinced one should try to invent a different way of achieving multiple selection.
Don't forget that Argos is also a desktop application; It tries to follow Gnome user experience.
Same behavior with tracks of playlists or hole lists … (...) and for deleting selected track in the Playing tab.
If I understand your suggestion correctly, it's equivalent to what Iris and iTunes do: Duplicate the playing controls in the three tabs.
Hum... Okay, I think I see. Give me time to think to this.
Maybe in a later stadium - beside the trash is enough space for up and down arrows to sort selected items and for overwriting the list. Saving as new list is on a touchscreen probably only possible with an overlay keyboard.
Branch 10-provide-a-way-to-create-delete-and-populate-playlists implements the following operations on playlists: creation, deletion, renaming, adding/removing tracks. The keyboard is only needed to rename the playlist. It's rather stable and I'd be happy to have your feedbacks.
Preferences and CLI-options
Please feel free to create a dedicated issue and suggest what option should be moved to the preference dialog!
canddoki
@orontee At first many thanks for your work in the past days. The library and the album-view are running perfectly. I am not a programmer, but during usage over the last few weeks I got same ideas. Something is probably impossible ;-), but something mayby not. Handling the play- and add-button in Argos is, in my opinion, still a bit difficult for the children and me too ;-). It's also really difficult to implement and even make it usable for a touchscreen. Below are a few thoughts... For example Iris and iTunes solve this with a bar on the bottom, that shows what’s now playing, player-controls, etc.. But I think for this age group and me, it’s not the optimal solution. An idea could be the strictly split between simple hearing of an album and queuing resp. playlist management. In the albumview, on the bottom we could have buttons, like a classical cd-player. Click on play, the hole album is playing, forward, backwards and on eject, stop playing and go back to the library. On top of the list there are buttons for selecting / deselecting tracks, add these tracks or adding the hole album to the queue. If the selection-button was clicked, every track gets a check-box and can selected or deselected. Press add-tracks all selected tracks are added to the queue or press play and all selected tracks will be played simply. Every action after the begin of selection stops the selection mode and resets the button.
Same behavior with tracks of playlists or hole lists …
and for deleting selected track in the Playing tab.
Maybe in a later stadium - beside the trash is enough space for up and down arrows to sort selected items and for overwriting the list. Saving as new list is on a touchscreen probably only possible with an overlay keyboard.
Preferences and CLI-options I like the enhanced preference dialog. For easier operation maybe some CLI-options could move at this location. And an option on which tab Argos starts with would be good :).