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Enable amenity=weighbridge on highway=toll_gantry #2398

Open urbalazs opened 4 days ago

urbalazs commented 4 days ago

Not only highway=service can have the tag amenity=weighbridge, but highway=toll_gantry, too. See this street view image as an example.

Famlam commented 4 days ago

It's a common tag combination in Hungary (weigh-in-motion systems), but I'm not sure if this is a toll system? It looks more like an enforcement situation to detect overweight vehicles, based on what I can find online?

p.s. you can ignore the failing test, that's unrelated

Yogurt4 commented 4 days ago

Well, a bit of history.

The Hungarian electronic toll system for HGVs started in 2013. It includes not only highways and motor roads but all primary roads, too. Owning to this, there are no entrance/exit gates (like in Germany). One has to pay toll for each section [typically a few kilometres], and for every use, in each direction. To enforce this, a hundred of fixed cameras were installed in addition to mobile control vehicles.

Skip forward a couple of years. Some enforcement cameras were upgraded with in-motion weighing, especially near border crossings to filter out overloaded trucks (typically from the Balkans). They use the same infrastructure, e.g., the existing electricity, mobile network, and the existing plate number recognition system.

The above StreetView photo shows the camera gantry, the speed and axle number detection loops in the foreground. The gray strips are the later added weight sensors.

The situation now: AFAIK all e-toll cameras were upgraded with in-motion weighing, along with a hundred new additional checkpoints. The country-wide weight enforcement system starts in this December.

urbalazs commented 4 days ago

I'm not sure if this is a toll system

Here is the office website of the National Axle Weight Measurement System (TSM). You can get localized PDF in many languages in the top of the page. From the English version:

How Does It Work? The TSM system is built onto the existing elements of the toll enforcement system (UD system).

Famlam commented 2 days ago

Ok on the PR. However, can you please document this on the wiki somewhere and/or give a link to a forum discussion? There probably was a discussion somewhere about whether this is surveillance or toll, two separate objects (the physical weighing part and the toll/enforcing part) or a single object I would assume?