Reveal Hiking Trail data

[petenz]

For hiking trails (on Openstreetmap, highway=path), Osmand does a good job of showing trail type (a trail I've tagged as more demanding shows as a different dashed line to a regular trail), but it would be nice if there were a way for a user to select a section of trail and see the actual designations (Hiking Difficulty rating/Trail Visibility rating etc.) with a key or scale so they can easily discern the likely difficulty of the trail.

[vshcherb]

It is hard to come up with such idea how to "click" on the road, we are thinking it will be very useful for "route planning", so "Measure distance" tool could be very useful

[rindlerblabla]

I think it would be very usable to have that view during active routing as well (for bicycle, hiking and future ski profile).

Edit. Obviously suggested in #5684

[littlehelper]

To me it sounds similar to the feature request #2232.

[petenz]

Yep, pretty much the same, it's definitely broader than just hiking trails, MTB and ski runs etc.

My suggestion came from concerns over a 'path' I'd added to Openstreetmap that in my local (New Zealand) parlance is what would be called a route rather than a hiking track. It's an established route but poorly marked at best, and potentially challenging in terms of terrain too - it's almost climbing, exposed, well prepared people have had falls and needed helicopter evacuation etc. Delighted to see tagging it correctly in Openstreetmap (both visibility and difficulty scales used) means it's shown differently in Osmand but without revealing the underlying data someone could still find themselves well out of their comfort zone on the path I added.

[petenz]

This is the kind of scenario I'd be hoping to avoid: https://www.reddit.com/r/searchandrescue/comments/8wlz88/rescue_due_to_marking_of_trails_on_openstreetmap/?utm_source=reddit-android

[matthijskooijman]

This is very similar to #7299 (maybe even a duplicate), which suggests showing hiking routes in the details shown when you drop a marker on a road on the map (similar to what happens when you view details for a transport stop).

[fabeit]

+1, it is really needed, and nothing has been done since that reddit post.

[Lee-Carre]

See #9800 (comment):

There are already a few ways of doing this:

• from within OsmAnd
  • enable the editing plugin
  • select the element of interest
  • in the details, the URL for the element is a clickable link
  • tapping it will open it in a browser of your choosing, and show all the data which OSM has about the element
• use OSMfocus (or the newer OSMfocus Reborn), which is intended for exactly the desired use-case described here. It can follow your GNSS position, so you literally just have to walk up to an element to have its tags listed

[scaidermern]

See #9800 (comment):

There are already a few ways of doing this:

• from within OsmAnd

  • enable the editing plugin
  • select the element of interest
  • in the details, the URL for the element is a clickable link
  • tapping it will open it in a browser of your choosing, and show all the data which OSM has about the element

This works only for POIs but not for regular ways like roads and paths.

[alensiljak]

This is literally a life saver. Please! Some other implementations, like Bergfex, show the difficulty as "T3" next to the path, but no visibility. An important distinction is also whether the path is exposed or not. While a non-exposed T3 is just a difficult path, an exposed T3 is a Russian roulette.

[vshcherb]

Well I think the situation has changed a lot, so now it's clickable on the shields and all relations tags should be displayed

[alensiljak]

That is great to know, that there is a trail information available when tapping on the trail shield. I did not know this before. It is quite useful and will help me a bit in planning hikes in the future.

However, in my humble opinion, it is not what is being requested here. In my understanding, this is about the grades (like T3) and visibility for any section of a path. This information is available in OSM. Some of it is shown with different dots already but I find that quite confusing. Unfortunately, last Saturday I could not tell a T5 path vs T2 just by looking at the map. Or an exposed T3 vs T1. This information is available and it would be extremely useful to have it on the offline map in any shape or form.

Trail info is nice but it is not what is being requested here. The trail info does not contain any information on the hiking trail difficulty level nor the visibility so I would disagree that this is implemented even remotely.

[vshcherb]

I think sac_scale rendering is supported - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale. You can select in rendering options for Hiking routes

[alensiljak]

Yes, thanks. I've used that before but, for some strange reason, on the new phone the trail difficulty was on but none of the grading systems. I had to manually select the SAC.

I'm still getting used to the colours and the trail visibility lines but this is pretty good. I assume it follows the guidelines at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hiking_maps in some way.