Closed aayushsinha0706 closed 2 years ago
Every mathematics department should offer at least one undergraduate course devoted primarily to geometry.
I am concerned that we may have too many courses in Core Mathematics rather than too few. A statement that every university should offer an option is very different from an expectation that every university student should take a course. The guidance for OSSU Core Math is:
"All OSSU Math students need to take all of these courses."
I took a moment to look at the math requirements at MIT, Stanford and Princeton. (To be clear, this analysis by comparison is one that I hope OSSU can avoid, as rationalizing a standard from dozens of examples of university curricula is much more difficult than following an established set of standards) Those departments have few courses that are required for all students in the department. Princeton is the only of the three that requires students take a course in Geometry (and even there the course can be substituted by topology or discrete math).
This state of affairs, where students have much wider latitude in choice than in other disciplines, seems reflected in the CUPM 2015, which is much less didactic about topics every graduate must have mastered.
I wonder if in the long term OSSU Math should move to a model that expects a very small set of courses recommended for all students (Core Math), a set of courses from which students must select at least N (Advanced Math?) and a further set of elective courses (Elective Math)?
Setting aside that rumination to focus on this RFC:
I don't see evidence that Geometry should be included in Core Math. I do see provided evidence that we should include Geometry resources in Advanced Math. I see evidence that the resources recommended are of high quality and I look forward to further discussion of them.
@aayushsinha0706 "Euclid Plane and its Relatives" and "Geometry with and Introduction to Cosmic Topology" are great sources. They are both well-written, modern, short but not too short, have a ton of figures, and decent amount of doable exercises. Excellent finds!
@waciumawanjohi To address your rumination, usually there is one Geometry course in undergraduate curricula, usually a 3rd or 4th year elective such as Differential Geometry or some other variant. Euclidean plane geometry is assumed to have been covered in high school, and the axiomatic approach to plane geometry is usually covered in a 1st year proofs/discrete math course.
My recommendation would be: either figure out a good free resource for Diff Geo (or make a compromise with the Dover book, in which case we could even use the MIT courses, which have additional readings and homeworks) and use that as the only Geometry course of the curriculum, placed in Advanced Math, or use "Geometry with an Introduction to Cosmic Topology" as the only Geometry course of the curriculum, placed in Advanced Math. (I'd like to point out that Diff Geo is my favorite subject of all time ever in anything, so I'm making a big compromise here! Depending on what we will do for Topology, some basic Diff Geo might be covered by the Topology course. Munkres has some stuff on it.)
@waciumawanjohi Ok upon reviewing CUPM 2015 . I guess I can be fine with not a compulsory geometry course.
I wonder if in the long term OSSU Math should move to a model that expects a very small set of courses recommended for all students (Core Math), a set of courses from which students must select at least N (Advanced Math?) and a further set of elective courses (Elective Math)?
According to me OSSU in the long term should make Core Math and breadth requirement of Advanced Math compulsory for all students and allow students to take further electives if they want to. Core Math in itself is way too light to be called an equivalent mathematics major.
@spamegg1 For Geometry courses I am not in the support of introducing just only one course in geometry. Students should be given choice between A survey of geometries, Non-Euclidean Geometry and Differential geometry.
For Euclidean Geometry Euclid's elements is still like a holy book for the subject. But I can understand why @spamegg1 don't recommend learning euclidean geometry directly from it.
From Differential Geometry I did found a playlist on from Professor NJ Wilderberg from UNSW Sydney
We can offer them as supplementary lectures with MIT lecture notes, same as we did with Analysis.
PROPOSAL
Add these courses/texts in advanced math Courses | Duration | Effort | Prerequisites |
---|---|---|---|
A Survey of Geometries : Euclid Plain and Its Relatives | 20 weeks | 3-5 hours/week | Elementary Set Theory and Calculus 1C |
Geometry with an Introduction to Cosmic Topology | 16 weeks | 7-8 hours/week | Multivariable Calculus |
Differential Geometry (Supplementary Video Lectures) | 10 weeks | 4-5 hours/week | Multivariable Calculus, Introduction To Analysis and Linear Algebra |
While @spamegg1 mentioned about Topology I am having a different plan to introduce topology as a separate advanced maths course in a different RFC
For Topology. I am planning to introduce Topology without tears. It has some really good reviews on Goodreads. And also author of the book made a really good effort to make it freely available.
@aayushsinha0706 Your proposal has responded to all of the comments offered and there have been no new comments. I encourage you to make a PR for the changes you propose here and I will merge it in.
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Problem: OSSU Math does not introduce geometry in its core curriculum and does not recommend any texts/courses in its Advanced Math
Duration: January 12, 2022.
Background: OSSU promises the equivalent of education an undergraduate education in Mathematics. In order to evaluate our recommended courses, we use the CUPM 2015 guideline that specifies number of mathematical areas a student should cover.
Let us visit Geometry section of CUPM 2015.
CUPM 2015 basic recommendations state that
Let us jump to Section 6 for sample syllabi
Topics covered under this suggestion
I suggest this book Euclidean Plain and Its Relatives for such a course
If we look at the Table of Contents of the book it covers
This book perfectly suits what above CUPM course suggests and can act as a foundation for advanced geometry courses.
Geometry Advanced Courses/Books
Upon reviewing the CUPM 2015. The resources to cover advanced courses in Advanced Geometry
To Learn Euclidean Geometry the book by Sir Euclid 's Euclid Elements is best in itself. A argument that can be raised here Is It still worth it to study Euclid Elements today? To support this argument I suggest to read this quora answer
For Non-Euclidean Geometry I suggest this book Geometry with an Introduction to Cosmic Topology
Also the review by MAA calls it “a masterfully written textbook.”
Another course suggested by CUPM 2015 is Differential Geometry
For this topic I suggest this book A Course in Differential Geometry by SHARIPOV R.A.
What book says
Proposal
Add the above texts as following
Core Mathematics
Geometry
Advanced Mathematics
Geometry