Open elf-pavlik opened 9 years ago
from: http://openfoodnetwork.org/platform/user-guide/advanced-features/buying-groups/
@wvengen I think Foodsoft implements something like Buying Groups?
@sjockers how you see OFN: Hub & BG compare to Teikei/Ernte-teilen model?
@myriamboure to continue our OFN vs TFA discussion, I think that our model is "Hub+BG = Assembly", which is a subset of OFN possibilities. But at the end, we have pretty similar systems (for an outsider) and I'm pretty sure we tackle the same issues every day. Would you agree ?
@bedhed I think you are right that for an outsider the platforms are pretty similar, but for a hub owner, or for an entrepreneur (individual or group) the projects are quite differents. One thing is not so clear in the image... actually a BG can be in contact directly with various producers without going through another hub... but for example, if a BG buy some products to producers, and some others to distributors (for imported goods, like lentils, etc.) then the BG buy from farmers and from other hubs. You can form the "holon" you want. For TFA, I'm not sure it's BG+Hub... Does the "assembly" buys through a hub (TFA) to different farmers? Is that really that or, in TFA model, the Assembly buy directly to the farmers (they pay the farmers directly, no?) and then TFA is just a service the "assembly" buy, that gives the assembly manager an online marketplace to operate, some network for sourcing, support for marketing, etc. What do you think?
@elf-pavlik The data model in teikei (the software that powers the Ernte teilen website) is currently very specific to the way Solidarische Landwirtschaft (Community-supported Agriculture in Germany) works. There are two types of places:
farm
– A place where food is produced.depot
– A place where CSA members meet to receive their share of produce.The relationship between farms and depots is many-to-many.
Please note that Ernte teilen is essentially a collaborative mapping project. It does not currently provide tools for managing food networks, so the data model is most probably much simpler than that of OFN or Food Assembly.
@myriamboure I think you're right, Assemblies are Buying Groups (with direct buying from each Farmer). The Hub concept is (by design) not there. TFA is a service the farmers buy, same for Host.
@myriamboure @bedhed I would propose to look at responsibiliies / concerns managed by Hubs, Assemblies, Buying Groups and clarify similarities and differences this way.
@sjockers Thank you for clarifications! AFAIK many farms, at least around Berlin, while running CSA also participate in Food Assemblies. I intend to at some point make it even easier for people running farms to participate in multiple modes of sharing food. BTW off-topic for this thread but you and @almereyda might like to see together how teikei and http://transformap.co/ fit together!
@elf-pavlik Foodsoft indeed implements buying groups - each group has their own instance, which they manage by themselves. (One Foodsoft installation can serve multiple instances, each with their own database.) In addition to this, there is a central database with supplier and product information that Foodsoft instances can synchronize with (used in Germany and The Netherlands).
BTW off-topic: I love the transformap idea - thinking of how we can connect existing datasources, e.g. adding a url like /_about.json
with information about locations, dates, number of members, and so on to our softwares.
In addition to this, there is a central database with supplier and product information that Foodsoft instances can synchronize with (used in Germany and The Netherlands).
@wvengen do you have it documented somewhere how it works? Also let's please also continue this topic in #5
dedicated thread to continue conversation from: https://github.com/ouisharelabs/food-dashboard/issues/1#issuecomment-138377601 @myriamboure wrote: