Closed szepeviktor closed 3 years ago
Also: http://ctrlv.in/ and http://pasteboard.co/ which turned out to be open-source https://github.com/JoelBesada/pasteboard
How is this different than a simple drag and drop?
You have to save a screenshot etc. to a file to be able to drag&drop. Pasting does not need that step. You can even copy an image file and paste it, but that's the same as drag&drop using keyboard only. I don't think it's possible to drag&drop with the keyboard. I'm a keyboard type 'a guy.
You have to save a screenshot etc. to a file to be able to drag&drop.
You mean instead of doing a "print screen" and then ctrl +v?
Yes.
Got it.
pasteboard is open-source.
Yes, but most of it is not needed. The main problem is that it doesn't work on IE, so there is very little chance of it getting integrated (personal opinion). http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
:cry:
Works for me on Win7/IE11
But this is a Java applet on snaggy that is not open-source.
But this is a Java applet on snaggy that is not open-source.
Yep, 2 problems. You don't need the applet if pasting text I think, but that's not really useful in a files sharing app.
May there are non-IE users out there.
Maybe it can be introduced as a feature for non-IE users only. You'll have to wait for other people to voice in their opinion :)
:+1: I believe it would be a huge usability plus!
@jancborchardt Huge usability plus?
If anything, this should be implemented as an app.
The main problem is that it doesn't work on IE, so there is very little chance of it getting integrated
Stuff like this is ok as enhancement since it’s not a core feature at all.
Regarding the thing itself: Nice addition – not sure if it’s a »huge usability plus« though. Rather a small enhancement for technical people since most folks don’t really use/know Ctrl+V.
If someone wants to have a go at it they can. I’d not say this is something for a separate app since it should be present in files, related to the drag&drop area: https://github.com/owncloud/core/pull/10470
most folks don’t really use/know Ctrl+V
That is shocking for me. It is the second most basic key combination on all PC-s, after Ctrl-C.
Please consider a UI which emphasis Ctrl-V, see: https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/17794#issuecomment-123504113
most folks don’t really use/know Ctrl+V
That is shocking for me.
Well, 90% of American internet users don’t know about Ctrl-F (2010). Remember that we discussing on issue trackers are a technical minority.
Are you designing a system for 90% of American internet users in 2010? :)
@jzee not sure how the remark is relevant. What I meant was that this is certainly a feature low in priority since for the majority of people it’s basically invisible. @szepeviktor @jzee you are very welcome to take a stab at it and submit a pull request.
@jancborchardt that was a joking attempt at pointing out that the facts you were pulling are out of date and that I question whether that's true. and that just because it might have been true 5 years ago, it would still be a huge usability plus for me.
Having said that, I just learned that you seem to be responsible for usability at OC, so have it your way.
My 2c are that any site with a good reputation for usability does have proper keyboard shortcuts.
Trello https://trello.com/shortcuts Twitter https://twitter.com/perform/status/350980645872345088 GMail https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6594?hl=en Facebook https://www.facebook.com/help/156151771119453 Instagram https://help.instagram.com/help/www/147441522071668 Outlook Webapp https://support.office.com/en-sg/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-in-Outlook-Web-App-63df572e-1078-4562-b45e-b93e07a76ffb
etc.
Well, 90% of American internet users don’t know about Ctrl-F (2010).
That makes a developer refrain from coding.
@jzee as said: pull requests are very welcome. :) I’m just saying that if you’re »asking« for the feature and want to wait for »us« to implement, then it will take some time.
@jzee - Lots of the site you've mentioned allows shortcuts, yes, put not many offer ctrl+v to paste images.
@oparoz - oh yeah. I was arguing for the usefulness of proper keyboard shortcuts as my impression had been that jcb dismissed them as "low priority".
I believe that they differentiate well-designed systems from systems that appear to be stitched together. And I personally know how much pain it can mean to add hotkeys late in a system design instead of including them systematically early on.
I was arguing for the usefulness of proper keyboard shortcuts as my impression had been that jcb dismissed them as "low priority".
@jzee no. I was just referring to the topic of this specific issue, the ability to paste stuff using Ctrl-V. Unlike simpler keyboard shortcuts this probably takes a significant amount of code.
@jancborchardt - for the sake of argument and tongue-in-cheek: is that so? :)
http://stackoverflow.com/a/6338207
Anyway, I don't want to go out on that limb too far and I need to say that I respect the work that you guys are doing to make OC work so well on different browsers and platforms so once again thanks for your good work!
EDIT: it's also working very well for me using Safari & FF with the web-client of telegram.org, the messaging service. There I found it to be a usability plus. They appear to have the whole clipboard sending implemented very smoothly.
this probably takes a significant amount of code.
Which is already in production. See pasteboard above.
@jzee @szepeviktor cool that you already found the relevant code. :) Now it’s only a small step for you to implement it and submit a pull request.
Shouldn't this rather be implemented as a separate app ? Or is this an extension for the files app ?
Depends on how much code this is. Because this is just a small feature and not really an app, people are unlikely to install this – however it might be useful & nice for more experienced folks.
It would be nice to paste images to ownCloud like: http://snag.gy/ snaggy includes HTML5 and a Java applet also.