Feature request: paste images

[szepeviktor]

It would be nice to paste images to ownCloud like: http://snag.gy/ snaggy includes HTML5 and a Java applet also.

[szepeviktor]

Also: http://ctrlv.in/ and http://pasteboard.co/ which turned out to be open-source https://github.com/JoelBesada/pasteboard

[oparoz]

How is this different than a simple drag and drop?

[szepeviktor]

You have to save a screenshot etc. to a file to be able to drag&drop. Pasting does not need that step. You can even copy an image file and paste it, but that's the same as drag&drop using keyboard only. I don't think it's possible to drag&drop with the keyboard. I'm a keyboard type 'a guy.

[oparoz]

You have to save a screenshot etc. to a file to be able to drag&drop.

You mean instead of doing a "print screen" and then ctrl +v?

[szepeviktor]

Yes.

[oparoz]

Got it.

[szepeviktor]

pasteboard is open-source.

[oparoz]

Yes, but most of it is not needed. The main problem is that it doesn't work on IE, so there is very little chance of it getting integrated (personal opinion). http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard

[szepeviktor]

:cry:

[szepeviktor]

Works for me on Win7/IE11

[szepeviktor]

But this is a Java applet on snaggy that is not open-source.

[oparoz]

But this is a Java applet on snaggy that is not open-source.

Yep, 2 problems. You don't need the applet if pasting text I think, but that's not really useful in a files sharing app.

[szepeviktor]

May there are non-IE users out there.

[oparoz]

Maybe it can be introduced as a feature for non-IE users only. You'll have to wait for other people to voice in their opinion :)

[jzee]

:+1: I believe it would be a huge usability plus!

[oparoz]

@jancborchardt Huge usability plus?

[RobinMcCorkell]

If anything, this should be implemented as an app.

[jancborchardt]

The main problem is that it doesn't work on IE, so there is very little chance of it getting integrated

Stuff like this is ok as enhancement since it’s not a core feature at all.

Regarding the thing itself: Nice addition – not sure if it’s a »huge usability plus« though. Rather a small enhancement for technical people since most folks don’t really use/know Ctrl+V.

If someone wants to have a go at it they can. I’d not say this is something for a separate app since it should be present in files, related to the drag&drop area: https://github.com/owncloud/core/pull/10470

[szepeviktor]

most folks don’t really use/know Ctrl+V

That is shocking for me. It is the second most basic key combination on all PC-s, after Ctrl-C.

Please consider a UI which emphasis Ctrl-V, see: https://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/17794#issuecomment-123504113

[jancborchardt]

most folks don’t really use/know Ctrl+V

That is shocking for me.

Well, 90% of American internet users don’t know about Ctrl-F (2010). Remember that we discussing on issue trackers are a technical minority.

[jzee]

Are you designing a system for 90% of American internet users in 2010? :)

[jancborchardt]

@jzee not sure how the remark is relevant. What I meant was that this is certainly a feature low in priority since for the majority of people it’s basically invisible. @szepeviktor @jzee you are very welcome to take a stab at it and submit a pull request.

[jzee]

@jancborchardt that was a joking attempt at pointing out that the facts you were pulling are out of date and that I question whether that's true. and that just because it might have been true 5 years ago, it would still be a huge usability plus for me.

Having said that, I just learned that you seem to be responsible for usability at OC, so have it your way.

My 2c are that any site with a good reputation for usability does have proper keyboard shortcuts.

Trello https://trello.com/shortcuts Twitter https://twitter.com/perform/status/350980645872345088 GMail https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6594?hl=en Facebook https://www.facebook.com/help/156151771119453 Instagram https://help.instagram.com/help/www/147441522071668 Outlook Webapp https://support.office.com/en-sg/article/Keyboard-shortcuts-in-Outlook-Web-App-63df572e-1078-4562-b45e-b93e07a76ffb

etc.

[szepeviktor]

Well, 90% of American internet users don’t know about Ctrl-F (2010).

That makes a developer refrain from coding.

[jancborchardt]

@jzee as said: pull requests are very welcome. :) I’m just saying that if you’re »asking« for the feature and want to wait for »us« to implement, then it will take some time.

[oparoz]

@jzee - Lots of the site you've mentioned allows shortcuts, yes, put not many offer ctrl+v to paste images.

[jzee]

@oparoz - oh yeah. I was arguing for the usefulness of proper keyboard shortcuts as my impression had been that jcb dismissed them as "low priority".

I believe that they differentiate well-designed systems from systems that appear to be stitched together. And I personally know how much pain it can mean to add hotkeys late in a system design instead of including them systematically early on.

[jancborchardt]

I was arguing for the usefulness of proper keyboard shortcuts as my impression had been that jcb dismissed them as "low priority".

@jzee no. I was just referring to the topic of this specific issue, the ability to paste stuff using Ctrl-V. Unlike simpler keyboard shortcuts this probably takes a significant amount of code.

[jzee]

@jancborchardt - for the sake of argument and tongue-in-cheek: is that so? :)

http://stackoverflow.com/a/6338207

Anyway, I don't want to go out on that limb too far and I need to say that I respect the work that you guys are doing to make OC work so well on different browsers and platforms so once again thanks for your good work!

EDIT: it's also working very well for me using Safari & FF with the web-client of telegram.org, the messaging service. There I found it to be a usability plus. They appear to have the whole clipboard sending implemented very smoothly.

[szepeviktor]

this probably takes a significant amount of code.

Which is already in production. See pasteboard above.

[jancborchardt]

@jzee @szepeviktor cool that you already found the relevant code. :) Now it’s only a small step for you to implement it and submit a pull request.

[PVince81]

Shouldn't this rather be implemented as a separate app ? Or is this an extension for the files app ?

[jancborchardt]

Depends on how much code this is. Because this is just a small feature and not really an app, people are unlikely to install this – however it might be useful & nice for more experienced folks.