Open me4oslav opened 9 years ago
Also, because Google+ shows a pic of my majestic hair as a thumbnail if I try to post it there and it is too damn gorgeous and will distract folks, here have the ozon logo picture. P.S. I wanted to add a picture of Katherine (even if I was not to use it as a thumbnail), but that would have been an overkill.
I don't know about you... but I kind of like going onto a new workspace and looking at my desktop background. That's what it's there for.
yes I agree with @zesterer tbh
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I think it's kinda weird, i use the overview to select a new workspace and it shoots me right back into the overview?
If the Launchers would be uncoupled from the rest of the overview this would make more sense and also look nicer.
@zesterer @david-baiIey Hence like @mpnordland said, it will be a behaviour that can be disabled. I am well aware that this switch is needed. It is too much for a drastic change for some people. I for one see no point of staring at a wallpaper, instead of getting stuff done but some people do. Don't worry, you will be able to disable that. @mpnordland YAY. And welcome back. @cldx What do you mean by "If the Launchers would be uncoupled from the rest of the overview this would make more sense and also look nicer."? Kinda didn't get it.
Uncoupled, as in we can display only the Apps, without Workspaces and searchbar and without the dark background in this case.
@cldx Well, that's what I meant. :) I said "Launcher as a desktop", not "Overview as a desktop". On empty desktop the user gets the app of grids, no workspaces and with subtle darkening. However why do you wanna have no search bar? It is super useful.
Oh okay, i guess we have the same thing in mind then :)
@me4oslav I think you should do a G+ poll to see which behaviour people prefer (desktop vs. activities), so that you know which one to use as default. It looks like it would be better for it to be opt-in rather than opt-out based on the comments here.
@david-baiIey Atom is very much in house designed desktop shell, we've never given community much power over Atom's design. A better option will be to have in enabled out for the box but make a super easy and prominent way to disable it. @cldx It seems so. About the search - can we keep it? Oh and make a telegram account, so I can add you to Numix and Ozon chats there.
@david-baiIey agree with @me4oslav. This is our OS and my idea for launcher so we are keeping it :)
dat my idea argument, though. :D
@david-baiIey it's not even that we dislike community feedback, but its very clear what will come put of it, some will love it, some will hate it, the next guy wants an option to put it into the tray and so on.
What i'd prefer is if we have branches for stuff like this and we can dogfood this to ourselves and just test it for a a while and then get back to it and see if it's really as awesome as we thought it would be or if it's one of those ideas that sound good in theory but dont work in reality.
This is also a kind of democracy cause of course everybody can bug us on github and test the branches. Just not as widespread as G+
Imma gonna rename you to Jono Konopka. :)
@cldx :+1: I like the idea of just having apps on the desktop, instead of all the workspaces stuff or so.
So, question: do we want to implement this in atom-launcher or atom-workspaces? Because we show the app grid when we switch to an empty workspace. Also, How subtle should the darkening be?
I guess it its for atom-launcher. Darkening should be 1/2 as little, I think. But we can tweak that. BTW, @cldx tells me that @kyuucr might be able to help, also.
I could probably implement it when switching to new blank workspace, but triggering it when all windows are closed sounds like I need more digging through gnome shell source code. Anyhow I'll look into it.
@kyuucr i looked into this for a while now but ran into several problems, how about we team up on this and make a spec and figure out the blocking stuff together? I'll throw you a message tonight on G+ so we can start.
@cldx It's already late in here so hit me up and I'll read your message first time in the morning :D
Anyone want to actually fix this?
The whole thing with an empty workspace in Gnome is such an outdated metaphor. To fix it what we can make is this - if the user gets to an empty workspace he doesn't get to stare at his wallpaper until he starts an app, but rather the app launcher. When he opens a window, the app launcher goes away. If he closes all the windows the app launcher appears again. This also NEEDS an off switch, because people will very much frown at us if we don't add one and we don't want that to happen. Can somebody please implement that, because starring at the wallpaper is counter productive. :P