.js is a 2 character TLD and those are resevered for countries

[ozten]

as reported in. https://twitter.com/#!/bdufresne/status/204643709441159168

Is this accurate? Any way around it?

http://www.newgtldsite.com/dot-code-tld-domain-names/

[paraboul]

let's create a country then.

[ozten]

Scope creep.

[paraboul]

2 letters are reserved for ISO-3166 list. http://www.iso.org/iso/fr/list-en1-semic-3.txt

JS doesn't exist.

[paraboul]

2.12 Can a New gTLD name be 2 letters?

Applied-for gTLD strings in ASCII must be composed of three or more visually distinct characters. Two-character ASCII strings are not permitted, to avoid conflicting with current and future country-codes based on the ISO 3166-1 standard.

http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/customer-service/faqs/faqs-en

[ozten]

Some ideas:

• .code
• .dev - Hacker tested, TJ approved
• .javascript (too long)
• .jsz (kind of like compressed JavaScript)
• .foo
• .bar *.get so https://example.get/example.js
• .hak - JS Hacker's paradise
• .let - JS keyword as well as common suffix
• .var, .try - too nerdy?
• .app
• .json - to curmudgeon?
• .hub
• .rad
• .jslib

[ozten]

Via Todd Barnard .code and a link I've added to the description.

[paraboul]

New materials : http://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/three-character-30may09-en.pdf http://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/idn-3-char-requirement-15feb10-en.pdf

[dscape]

It is decided then, we must create a new country (or invade poland, @mmalecki lives there)

[TooTallNate]

I think @visionmedia uses .dev in /etc/hosts so that's a no-go

[tj]

BRING IT ON TOO TALL

[ozten]

Edited Comment 4 with some 3 char TLDs....

Also

• .wut
• .yak
• .yar - For the pirates, yo
• .yes

[ozten]

.src - View Source has a Posse

[gryzzly]

.src is rather sweet

[davidmurdoch]

Maybe we can ask The Principality of Sealand to hook us up? They take donations. http://www.sealandgov.org/ Note: they aren't formally recognized as country by any other country, but maybe ICANN could let it slide?

p.s. I'm joking - mostly. :-p

[ozten]

Updates: 1) Mozilla leadership is really excited about a .js TLD, so if this could ever happen, they seem like the first organization we might be able to trick into running the registry aspect.

I was ignorant of @voodootikigod and many of your attempts at working on these ideas already. <3

2) We've gotten confirmation that .js won't be eligible for the new gTLD processes, so a kickstarter wouldn't be a good idea.

3) The js TLD is non delegated. Filed Issue #23.

So these two bugs seem like blockers :( We'll need a creative, new solution or to work on the bureaucratic aspects of Issue #23.

I've closed down signing and updated the README. We know there is a lot of energy, we just need a viable strategy to move this forward.

[dscape]

[KorvinSzanto]

.proj .pkg .ecma

[dscape]

[chalkers]

.wat :)

[TEHEK]

.src would make sense when combined with 2nd level doman like .js.src

[KorvinSzanto]

@TEHEK, I'm pretty sure that those follow the same 2 letter rules.

[ngollan]

There are rules for that kind of stuff, you can look them up at ICANN. Application is also pretty much closed, and you will most definitely not make it into the screening process either way, much less through it.

(edit) Just to make it clear, the application window closed on April 12...

(another edit) read all about it first: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb

[jDavidnet]

what about ?

.api .lib .web .script

[chrisabrams]

Surely someone at Mozilla can get some ICANN love going - we really do need more TLDs for code.

[ozten]

@chrisabrams good call, both @lloyd and I are at Mozilla.

This project was started as a personal side-project, but Mozilla Foundation is very supportive and (we found out) had already worked on the idea with others at JS conferences.

[mikeal]

nobody here knows anyone at ICANN?

maybe call in the big guns: @BrendanEich you know anyone over there?

[chrisabrams]

That's very exciting to hear @ozten and @lloyd. I'm happy to make blog posts, videos, power points, write code, or whatever it takes to help make this happen.

[benatkin]

.coffee

[mikeal]

serious question guys: does LegalZoom offer a "register your own country" option?

[JarrettBillingsley]

Why on earth does there need to be a TLD for a programming language.

[chrisabrams]

@JarrettBillingsley because all .com domains that coders want are taken and we're all instead adding "js" to the end of the name of the .com anyway, so might as well make it simpler and have .js instead.

[chalkers]

@benatkin Controversial! You're going to start a flame war on reddit or something.

[chalkers]

Maybe we can poison DNS servers with .js domains!

[chrisabrams]

@mikeal Yeah I'm sure LegalZoom could help with registering a country, but here is what else you have to do: http://www.un.org/en/members/about.shtml

[mikeal]

@chrisabrams it is at this point that I think we need to enlist the help and support of the Pirate Party :)

[JarrettBillingsley]

@chrisabrams that is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I don't see anyone looking to register .py as a TLD just because there are lots of Python libraries that start/end with Py. What the hell.

[JarrettBillingsley]

Actually, I have a better idea: let's host our "amazing projects" on github! Wow!

[davidmurdoch]

@ JarrettBillingsley because JS coders are the ones building today's web?

I wonder ICANN they'll pay some attention if we offer to double their usual price.

[JarrettBillingsley]

@davidmurdoch So this is entirely about ego?

[chrisabrams]

@davidmurdoch That's what it sounds like. @JarrettBillingsley You're absolutely entitled to your opinion, but I disagree that it is stupid, as would most developers that view this. I personally know Python developers that would pay for a .py domain in a heart beat. We, the developers of the web, want a TLD that represents what we create, and this process is about gaining that representation.

[chalkers]

@JarrettBillingsley What percentage of ego is acceptable for you to back the project? Satiating ones need for relevance is of the utmost importance is it not? Honestly if we decide to spend our money on something as 'amazing' or 'stupid' as a .js TLD or whatever it's what the value the person puts on it that really matters. No one is coercing anyone to part with their cash to buy it, it's voluntary.

[JarrettBillingsley]

@chrisabrams "Most developers?" Are you kidding? Did you know that there are other programming languages besides JavaScript? It's true! Believe it or not, there are still plenty of people writing programs that DON'T execute inside web browsers. And they host their projects on those dirty old-fashioned TLDs like github.com and python.org and don't bitch about it because it is entirely irrelevant what TLD your programming project is hosted on. Or you could -- I dunno -- just not put the letters "JS" in your JavaScript library name. Wow! What an idea!

Please, please think about this before spending two hundred thousand fucking dollars of other peoples' money.

[JarrettBillingsley]

@chalkers Relevance? Relevance? As if there isn't already mountains upon mountains of websites, books, conferences etc. about JavaScript, you need some kind of validation through the global internet addressing scheme? Oh yes, EVERYONE knows that the programming language you use and your contributions to its community are COMPLETELY irrelevant without a TLD to call your own.

[benatkin]

More suggestions:

• .ajax
• .jjs (easy to type, many will get the hint, can stand for JSON & JavaScript)
• .cjs and .sjs (client javascript and server javascript)

[chalkers]

@JarrettBillingsley If people want to contribute toward it people see value in it. If not it's a failure and there's no interest. But it's voluntary. Let the market decide!

[ozten]

Please use other media to discuss the merits of this project.

Please use these blocker issues to generate creative solutions for the cold hard facts of TLDs.

[chrisabrams]

Well hopefully soon we'll get some feedback on whether we have a contact at ICANN who can help shed light on what we need to do. Maybe they want to keep .js reserved in case someone around the world decides to create a new country. There have been lots of suggestions to other TLDs and maybe we should look into one that could work for any language?

[mikeal]

.oss = open source software?

[chalkers]

+1 for .src

[chalkers]

+1 for .oss