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Development of PVOS as an organization #35

Open dwblair opened 12 years ago

dwblair commented 12 years ago

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Background

This will provide a record of our discussions around how to evolve an organization focused on developing open source science hardware, software, and knowledge infrastructure (if that is our true focus -- still up for debate!). Among things we might consider working on doing soon:

megkierstead commented 12 years ago

Official UMass Intellectual Property Policy: http://www.umass.edu/research/system/files/Intellectual_Propery_Policy_UMA.pdf

Important Points

This should be confirmed with someone with legal expertise, but I believe that open licensing circumvents a number of IP issues. Labor and services, rather than IP, are the revenue sources.

dwblair commented 12 years ago

Great finds!

Okay, so seems like some key points of advice for someone entering such a process (like us!) might be:

1) Start taking clear notes on the development process. Pay attention to what resources are used by whom, where. This probably isn't a bad idea in general, but can be particularly important when collaborating with universities. 2) Find the policy re: faculty consulting at the particular institution with which you want to collaborate, and make sure that you and the faculty create / use / understand guidelines that will allow for what all parties want from the collaboration (open sources relevant components, protecting the IP of other components / parties, etc) 3) Seek (free, hopefully) legal counsel in order to clarify any blurry issues.
4) Be transparent and open about what you're doing, what you've done, your operating values and principles, your mission statement, from the very beginning. This will likely prevent most conflicts / confusion / lawsuits / negative outcomes down the line.

megkierstead commented 12 years ago

Crowdfunding money matters:

dwblair commented 12 years ago

That's a very interesting article you linked to. Sounds like we might right now live during a brief golden era of crowdfunding before the SEC clamps down on things. Hopefully not.

Questions / Points

Side note, whispered: does a crowfunding site maybe have a business incentive to downplay these hidden costs, in order to make the entire endeavor seem easy-peasy for anyone to do? If so, it might be very useful for the community to highlight some of these complications, so that artists, small business owners, non-profits, scientists, makers don't get burned.

megkierstead commented 12 years ago
megkierstead commented 12 years ago

Crowdfunding fees:

sekjal commented 11 years ago

Some followup from today's meeting:

Forming two groups:

  1. Non-profit Pioneer Valley Open Science Institute (pvos.org): dedicated to the discourse, academic work and scholarly aspects of open science. Would coordinate events as budget permits, as well as host source code, schematics, tutorials and other educational materials.
  2. For-profit PVOS.CC. Selling DIY open hardware kits and pre-assembled devices for projects hosted by the Institute, as well as hosted web services for various software packages for those who don't want to install their own. Can also sell swag like T-shirts, coffee mugs and stickers, as those things do tend to pay the bills.

I would advocate, then, that this GitHub be used for hosting the git repositories of source code offered up by the Institute. This makes all the code for all the projects readily accessible in a community-standard way.

The non-profit Institute may be able to piggyback on the hard work of PLOTS, rather than go through 501(c)3 application itself. It really depends on the particular goals of the Institute, and how well they align with PLOTS's goals.

It would be important to draft a policy statement early on about the licensing and distribution of projects the Institute works on with other groups. Something that clearly indicates the Institute leans heavily towards openness, but with the understanding that some work needs to be kept private until publication (no detailed progress updates). Work that is intended to lead to closed, proprietary or confidential products is not a good match for PVOS, and other partnerships should be sought out instead.