EMC Values don't get calculalated properly/at all

[BlackStar7713]

I don't think calculation of EMC values works in my game. I don't get any Values for anything thats not specified in the energy values json file.

Version: 0.3.502 Forge: 10.13.3.1401

Modpack is FTB Infinity 1.4.1 with some mods added and nearly all mods updated so everything works together and with the new forge liquid stuff. If you need all the versions or some log files or something let me know and I'll get them for you.

Edit: I think some stuff seems to work: Grout (TiCon) Seems to be calculated, but simple stuff like iron blocks, pistons etc don't (iron ingots however are fine). It's also not only vanilla stuff not working, since blank patterns (also TiCon) don't work either.

[Qsandas]

I'm having the same issue here.My first session with EE3 installed was fine, but after that only the hardcoded items would have any value at all. Playing the DW20 pack, all mods and forge up to date with only 2 added mods (EE3 included)

Update: It seems to be random. Sometimes I play and everything works, other times It doesn't, and then sometimes it works for some items, but not for others. I know you've worked hard on this Pahimar, but I have a suggestion. Is it possible to add a command to force it to recalculate values in-game for when it decides not to work? This would be a good workaround until you can nail the problem down.

[JadeDrgn]

I can't even find the energy value json file anywhere, where is it normally? Also having this issue, I believe the file deleted itself? I tried a search for all .json files in my instance and found nothing that looked like it would be the file.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it doing another search.

[Lavaflow]

I am having the same issue. Both vanilla and mod items are failing to value- i.e. diamond and cobble have values, but diamond block and compressed cobble don't. On the other hand, I have 200 mods, so there might be an interaction somewhere that's killing DynEMC. I'm not sure how it would or what, but it's a possibility.

[NisheethP]

I am having the same problem. Looking by removing mods one at a time, it seems like its buildcraft (I have 6.4.14) that's causing this.

[BlackStar7713]

@NisheethP Thanks for the tip, removing Buildcraft seems to have helped, but I still have a lot of missing values. I guess I'll have to search for more mods doing something wrong

I'm going to remove single mods at a time and look for all items/blocks in the first page of my NEI and write down all without a value

Edit: removing Buildcraft doesn't do anything for me :/ (looking at Stone to Netherbrick fence)

Edit: Disabling rotarycraft(Reika) has helped a bit, but not everything is working yet. There seem to be problems with stone/cobble crafted items

Edit: The stone stuff was due to GeoStrata (Reika). I would guess there is some problem because of the amount of different materials that can be crafted into one item (furnace, pressureplates etc.) And that the smooth variants don't have EMC values assigned (shouldn't they be added automatically because they can be gotten from smelting their cobble counterparts? well I can live without it.) Anything else without a value I have found is either a custom crafting handler or made from resources without a value. There are only a few vanilla items I have found without a value (namely dragon egg, spawners, chain armour, spawn eggs, enchanting potion, horse armour, heads (these are probably intentional) plus packed ice and wooden slabs (only oak have a value))

Now I'm going to reenable all the other mods I disabled and see if anything happens.

BTW even though I have some problems with the mod, I want to compliment you. You really did awesome work with the DynEMC system. It's working beautifully (if nothing interferes) and even stuff like potions and everything have EMC, so THANKS for this awesome mod :)

[NisheethP]

I checked it again.You can try working with a new instance starting with EE3 and NEI only. In that method when I add buildcraft, the values stop calculating. But when I worked from a set instance, and removed buildcraft, it doesn't seem to work.

[BlackStar7713]

Ok I reenabled everthing apart from RotaryCraft and GeoStrata, and now it doesn't work anymore. So there is another mod derping. Removing Buildcraft again didn't help. So the entire process again, but this time from a different starting point :/

Probably going the route you suggested, by disabling everything and enabling one by another, may be easier.

There are several Mods causing trouble. Buildcraft RotaryCraft, Chisel2, GeoStrata. Plus more, since I enabled the next batch of mods and nothing works again. I'll make a new post as soon as I know all (in my installation) that cause DynEMC to stop working. May take a while.

[iTitus]

Why would BC even stop DynEMC from working? cc @pahimar @asiekierka

Am 10.05.2015 um 16:25 schrieb Vanir2314 notifications@github.com:

Ok I reenabled everthing apart from RotaryCraft and GeoStrata, and now it doesn't work anymore. So there is another mod derping. Removing Buildcraft again didn't help. So the entire process again, but this time from a different starting point :/

Probably going the route you suggested, by disabling everything and enabling one by another, may be easier.

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[BlackStar7713]

I give up. What I think is the problem (not sure ofc, I don't know how to mod ;) ) : To many Blocks/Items in the Game prevent DynEMC from doing anything. Why? Well If you're interested in the path I took to this conclusion, I'll just post the "log" of what I did here

First I installed EE3 (0.3.505), Code Chicken Core (1.0.56.39) and NEI (1.0.4.100) on Forge 10.13.3.1401 and checked if it is working. (Obviously it worked.)

Then I installed a first batch of mods: Another One Bites the Dust (2.6.2), Aroma1997Core (1.0.2.13), BdLib (1.7.1.71), CoFH Core (3.0.2-262), CoFHLib (1.0.2-160), iChunUtil (4.2.2), InpureCore (1.0.0B9-60), Mantle (0.3.2), MineTweaker3 (3.0.9C), MobiusCore (1.2.5), OpenModsLib (0.7.3), ResourceLoader (1.2), ttCore (1.21), Waila (1.5.10), Waila Harvestability (1.1.2), Wawla (1.2.1), fastcraft (1.21)

These are all mods I hope don't change DynEMC/Are requirements for other mods

After the first batch everything went fine.

Second batch of mods: AgriCraft (1.3.1), Applied Energistics 2 (rv2-stable-1), AromaBackup (0.0.0.5), BiblioCraft (1.10.4), Biomes O' Plenty (2.1.0.1067), Blood Magic (1.3.2-1), Botania (r1.6-167), Carpenter's Blocks (3.3.6), Chisel 2 (2.3.10.37)

After this DynEMC stopped working, so I disabled one of the mods at a time (in Order of the list) but always reenabled the one I disabled before. It only worked when I came to the last one and disabled Chisel. I left Chisel disabled for the next batch of mods, since I thought it is responsible for the system not working.

Third batch of Mods: Compact Machines (1.18), CompactStorage (2.0.0.9), ComputerCraft (1.73), Custom Main Menu (1.4), DecoCraft (1.12b), Dense Ores (1.6.2), Draconic Evolution (1.0.1a), Ender IO (2.2.8.367), Ender Storage (1.4.7.33), Ender Zoo (1.0.11.28), EnderTech (0.3.2.382)

This time: Again no EMC Values. I deactivated all of this batch and only enabled one at a time, disabling the one before. (Once I came to Custom Main Menu and it worked I just left it in, because I don't know how it should affect anything). The only ones that worked were: Custom Main Menu, EnderIO, Ender Zoo. I then tested Ender IO and Ender Zoo together, which worked as well. Any combination of any of the other mods of batch 3 stopped DynEMC from working.

Thats where I am right now. All mods that stopped it were large mods (Buildcraft, and Rotarycraft) or in combination with other mods (Chisel adds relatively many Blocks so that might be why it was the only one that allowed it to run when disabled from batch 2)

According to my CurseClient Thats the newest version for each of the mods (except for Draconic Evolution, but I noticed that too late and didn't want to update in the mid of testing)

And just to clarify, I never installed EE3 and NEI only alongside Buildcraft or Rotarycraft, but with a small number, so I can't verify wether or not these are enough on their own to prevent it from working.

On another note, Pahimar, is there a place were we can see or download the EMC values you added for modded resources on Forgecraft? I'm not really good when it comes to finding balanced values, so that'd be helpful once I get my instance to behave correctly.

I'm probably not going to be of help for the rest of the day, I've had enough of Minecraft for the day. I'll answer any questions you might still have tomorrow (or maybe today if I fell like it later).

Edit: And just in case you'd like to know: To see if it is calculated I only looked at vanilla aitems, namely Block of Diamond, Piston, Furnace and Fence gate

Additionally while it worked I noticed that only oak wooden slabs have a value, all the other wooden slabs don't even though all the other blocks got values and you might want to assign a value to Packed ice as well, unless it is intentionally not having an emc value.

[pahimar]

The short, you are wrong.

The long, it has nothing to do with too many blocks/items. What you are seeing is complications with entries in the OreDictionary. I only set a very small number of values (https://github.com/pahimar/Equivalent-Exchange-3/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pahimar/ee3/init/EnergyValues.java). There is also a lot of special casing with the OreDictionary such that DynEMC tries to avoid calculating incorrect values in particular cases (it's in the code if you want to read/trace it - https://github.com/pahimar/Equivalent-Exchange-3/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pahimar/ee3/exchange/EnergyValueRegistry.java#L339)

In short, this is all resolved with setting more values, which any user can do. I cannot solve all possible complications in code.

[pahimar]

Oh yeah, you can always read the computed values. They are ALWAYS saved to file.

Look in data/ee3/energyvalues/ for the .json.gz files. Ungunzip them and you can read them as plaintext json files. Easy peasy.

[BlackStar7713]

Ok As I said, I don't know how to mod, so I can't read code either^^ Where is the file and what do I need to add, so for example a crafting table has an EMC value again? From what you said I would guess the one in the saves folder is regenerated and only for looking in, not for changing. But I haven't found another file that would look like I can change for what is needed here.

And do I just need to get random items (ingots etc.) and assign a value to them and at some point it will be able to calculate the other stuff again?

Edit: And I just saw you specified raw and cooked variants of food, so I assume it can't calculate stuff that has been processed by a furnace? Or is there another reason?

[Qsandas]

Pahimar, I'm not code-savvy at all, but that doesn't always seem to be the case. I'm positive that you're right in a lot of what's going on. However, there are times where even things from the mod itself don't get calculated, such as Alchemical Coal, or cases where items don't get calculated even if all the components are working properly such as chests when all logs and planks (including all mod variants) have their values fine. Then there's some cases that don't make sense such as the enchanted golden apples that none of the components, nor the components of those components have ever had anything to do with the ore dictionary.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't expect you to fix every little problem with the code or for it to be perfect; after all, these are mods we're talking about, and no mod is 100% stable. XD Nor am I saying that I know the code better than you. It's just that from my perspective, some of the problems don't add up with your explanation. Is it possible that there's more than one problem afoot here?

Edit: Ok, I saw about the Extra Utilities problem for planks and cobble, so that strikes down the second example.

[JadeDrgn]

For a quick fix, just delete the whole ee3 folder in your worlds data folder, then change the config for ee3 so that it only generates the file once, this will make it generate only if it's not there and won't break afterwards. I did this and all my emc values were corrected. The only thing is that extra utilities breaks the stuff it paints, because of ore dict shinanigans, like planks and cobblestone. So stuff like furnaces, chests, pistons etc whatever uses them won't get calculated.

[SimpleMajority]

Tried all the suggestions listed here, but still alot of the EMC doesn't generate. Too bad, I had my compacting drawers moved to the transmutation room. I checked in the json file, and I do see the compressed cobbles listed with the values, but the values do not show up at all in game.

[bsaksida]

@SimpleMajority http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/2442409-ee3-helper-2-2a-in-game-emc-value-management-emc

This is a helper mod. It will allow you to add missing EMC and then force you to regenerate EMC values. For compressed cobblestone, i had to add EMC value to compressed cobble stone so that other versions (Double, tripple, etc..) got emc. Until pahimar adds support for recepies with items that uses ore dictionary.

[SimpleMajority]

@bsakslda I had seen that, but came here to see if Pahimar had any solutions. I would assume they are using this on forgecraft server as well, because sorayn (sp) and dw20 have been generating billions through compressed cobble

[zigzagmzn]

I am having a similar issue with build 507. EE3 is failing to create values for any modded items. For instance I know on Forgecraft Direwolf20 has world interaction upgrades learned but mine have no value. As far as I can tell no modded items have a value. Also when I tried to use "/ee3 set-energy-value-current-item 0 320 I received the message "zigzagmzn set a 0 energy value of [Silver Ingot] to 320 but nothing happened then or upon restarting world and client.

[damew]

I having the same issue when adding agricraft most likely because it add an ore dictionary of it own to the redstone and glowstone it can not compute any item use those item as a material... My suggestion to fix it would probably be difficult or taxing to do. But it would be to us the lowest value of the item it can use... Them again if one use the recommended version instead of the latest it seam to be working fine don't know how fine though but at less the redstone and glowstone problem with in agricraft...

[pahimar]

Closing in order to track issues on the unified ticket #990

[Plasmo322]

I've been having the same issue and I get that this comment is 9 months late but i still want to help those who Google this question. My solution was to uninstall the following mods and the EMC values reset: CoFHCore 3.0.3 ThermalExpansion 4.0.3B1 218 ThermalFoundation 1.2.0 102 MineFactory reloaded 2.8.0 104

All being for version 1.7.10. I hope this helped someone out there looking for a solution and if you have any of these mods installed I would uninstall them before any mod you try to uninstall. Something with these mods counter act with either the DynEM or the .json.

[SegFault22]

Plasmo322 That may work well, but unfortunately I have used Thermal Expansion extensively and I have got lots of blocks from the mod everywhere serving tasks that no other mod's blocks can do better - if I remove the mods, my stuff will get ruined. I will see if it also works to delete the data that those mods generate inside the mods folder, and have them regenerate it only after or maybe before EE3 has loaded (add "zzz" to all of the mods' file-names in the mods folder, to make them load later). If this does work, then it is an issue arising from the mod loading order, in which case it would be best for EE3 to have something like the GreggyTech "EnsureToBeLoadedLast" configuration, so that it only loads after the other mods have finished all of their shenanigans (and not before, which may be causing these problems)

It seems unlikely to be just a coincidence, that the CoFH mods mentioned are causing this problem as well as occasionally causing a "mod sorting cycle" problem (prevents loading), which requires the generated files to be deleted and re-generated by loading the game again. This is what gave me the idea to delete the generated files and see if it also fixes the problem.