Non-website passwords

[ghost]

It would be nice to be able to use this tool for non-website passwords. It seems this can be done now by simply storing multiple unrelated passwords for one website. Can you make this easier? (Would you encourage me to take a stab at it?)

[palant]

So this is about passwords not associated with any particular website? @kzar already asked about notes not associated with any particular website, and we agreed that notes.invalid would be a good host name to store these on. Then again, if we want to store passwords there as well then maybe something more generic would be better - like passwords.invalid or generic.invalid.

The open question is still how a good UX for this would look like. On the one hand, we don't want to overload the user interface with options and buttons. On the other hand, it should be easy to get to those generic passwords. One option I see would be a "Show generic passwords" link on the same line as "Website name:" - right-aligned. This link should switch the current view to generic.invalid, the website name shouldn't actually appear in the text field however but only something like "none." Do you see any better options?

[kzar]

I think the best interface would be a search box. I really like that feature in LastPass, both the popup and the all passwords page could have a search box at the top which allows you to quickly find other sites and notes, that could find ones not associated with a domain too.

As for storing passwords not associated with domains, do you really need this if storing free-text notes without an associated domain works @juliandoucette? (I can't see how that would be too useful, since stuff like automated password-filling wouldn't work anyway.)

[palant]

I think the best interface would be a search box.

That would be an advanced feature and a huge overkill here. LastPass is about the last application that I would take as a usability example, the route through the user interface is maximally obfuscated there.

[kzar]

Well I think it makes a lot of sense. The use case is something like "I want to see the secure note for my bank account to get the account number", I'd then click the LastPass icon and search for the name of my bank, then click the record I wanted to view.

How else could we make that as convenient?

[palant]

A search field can be discussed but definitely not in the context of this issue.

[Noitidart]

I don't know the right approach for this. But I frequently use this for non-webbrowser passwords. Like my Teamviewer and Skype passwords. I go visit skype.com and then get the code then paste it back.

[Noitidart]

Maybe cross platform Electron app. I can help with this if you want to go that way.

[palant]

52 has been resolved, I think we can continue with this one as well now. As established in #26, the site name for passwords not bound to a site is pfp.invalid. We should not expose it however, instead it should display as (none). And it should be easiest if it shows up like that in the autocomplete list so that it can be selected there.

[gotgot1995]

Maybe cross platform Electron app. I can help with this if you want to go that way.

Hi @Noitidart , I totally agree with you. I also use PfP all the time for non-website passwords. I tried placing the web-client into an electron project but it kinda failed. Maybe you could help me out if you know about this stuff. 😄

For example, what would be great is being able to put the cross-platform packaged version onto a USB drive. Then I could have all my passwords, all the time, on any operating system 🙂