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Consider rebranding #279

Closed melix99 closed 1 year ago

melix99 commented 2 years ago

There are two main problems with the name "Telegrand":

  1. It doesn't follow the GNOME HIG's app naming guidelines. More specifically, these are the main problematic points with Telegrand:
    • A good app name should:
      • Be easy to pronounce (I don't know about you, but I keep confusing telegrand with telegram).
      • Be easily paired with a good app icon, such as by referencing a physical object.
    • A good name should avoid:
      • Made-up words or word combinations.
  2. There's a "service" with the same name and it happened many times that people contacted me because they thought that I'm affiliated with that site (???).

Now, I'm not really great at naming, so I'm not the best person to propose better names. But I was contacted by @rafaelmardojai who let me know that he's willing to give up the name of his previous telegram client called Telex for a rename of Telegrand. I think that it's a cool name and it would solve all the issues of the previous name (it's not a made-up word, it's easy to pronounce and it's a physical object).

This issue is served as a discussion point.

marhkb commented 2 years ago

It's not that easy to find a suitable name. Because in order for users to quickly guess that it is a Telegram client, the name should reflect the reference. Spontaneously, I would think of

  1. Telegraph – A device for sending telegrams.
  2. Datagram – A basic transfer unit associated with a packet-switched network (Wikipedia)
  3. Payload – The part of transmitted data that is the actual intended message (Wikipedia)

Though, 2 and 3 are not physical objects.

CleoMenezesJr commented 2 years ago

I really like the name Telex, but I think there's a problem with it. A hearing aid company already uses that name. Telegraph is a great name too.

melix99 commented 2 years ago

Telegraph

Unfortunately there's really too much stuff with that name, a newspaper, a big open source project that appears when you search for "telegraph open source" on google, there's even a Telegram service to create articles with that name.

Payload

Unfortunately github is filled with projects with that name.

Datagram

The main problem with that is that it's a term used mostly for networking stuff, so if you search for it, you mainly find network-related projects, but it's not a big deal compared to the other two.

marhkb commented 2 years ago

There is a conflict of objectives if we want to have a name that has a high degree of recognition, but at the same time is not yet taken. Personally, I think a high degree of recognition is more important. If you look at the Gnome Circle Apps, for example, you can find many collisions with other projects.

melix99 commented 2 years ago

Personally, I think a high degree of recognition is more important. If you look at the Gnome Circle Apps, for example, you can find many collisions with other projects.

Yeah, I agree, but I think that having a high degree of recognition also means that it should be easy to find if you know its domain. So, I'd expect people to search for "APP_NAME open source" or "APP_NAME telegram client" on google or to search the project name on github. So...

I really like the name Telex, but I think there's a problem with it. A hearing aid company already uses that name.

I don't really think it's a problem since the domain is pretty different.

alissonlauffer commented 2 years ago

Telegraph

About this name, apparently Telegram does not allow this name, as Telegram was called Telegraph in its early days (if you see Telegram for iOS package name, it's ph.telegra.Telegraph), plus now there's a service for creating articles called Telegraph too. There is a Telegram client for Android that was called Telegraph, but afaik Telegram made them change their name (and it's now called Graph Messenger).

marhkb commented 2 years ago

Let's continue brainstorming

just-carlod commented 2 years ago

The best name IMO would be Tangram, but unfortunately it's already occupied by another app :( Screenshot from 2022-04-27 20-38-48

marhkb commented 2 years ago

The best name IMO would be Tangram, but unfortunately it's already occupied by another app :(

Where do you see the connection between a board game and a messenger app? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangram

just-carlod commented 2 years ago

The best name IMO would be Tangram, but unfortunately it's already occupied by another app :(

Where do you see the connection between a board game and a messenger app? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangram

I was looking for something with "gram" suffiix, but you're right that's not the best name for messenger app

just-carlod commented 2 years ago

My thoughts (not sure if they are accurate):

CleoMenezesJr commented 2 years ago

Turbit. I was thinking about carrier pigeon breed names.

Tuxino88 commented 2 years ago

TicTic (the noise of the telegraph key) :D

jannuary commented 2 years ago

I like "Morse".

Bytezz commented 2 years ago

I think "Paper Plane" would be the best choice.

Avoiding:

Following GNOME HIG.

Newbytee commented 2 years ago

Teletype?

naipotato commented 2 years ago

@Newbytee https://teletype.in/

subpop commented 2 years ago

@Newbytee https://teletype.in/

It's okay to have a name collision like this. There are only so many applicable words, and Teletype is a very good name for this application. It seems like "teletype.in" isn't even remotely related to Telegram, messaging, chat, etc., so I don't think you'd run into confusion or collisions. For example, I doubt "teletype.in" would ever end up on Flathub.

igor-dyatlov commented 2 years ago

I suggest «Pager» 📟 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pager