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vulnerability, resilience, and robustness as dispositional qualities in PATO #67

Open ramonawalls opened 9 years ago

ramonawalls commented 9 years ago

We want to be able to define classes for an application ontology such as "human population vulnerable to flooding". Such a population could be said to have a disposition to be negatively impacted by flooding, and this disposition is called vulnerability. A vulnerable disposition = vulnerability.

As PATO:quality is not really equivalent to BFO:quality and already has subclasses (like process qualities) that are not strictly BFO:qualities, we could also make a branch for dispositional qualities like vulnerable or resilient.

pbuttigieg commented 8 years ago

Interesting definition of resilience by the WMO here

Capacity to recover the normal functioning and development after being hit by a disaster. A high resilience reduces indirect impacts of disasters, such as business and services interruptions in the aftermath of a disaster. [Source: ISDR Terminology of disaster risk reduction]

Flooding and other disasters have been added to ENVO's process branch (pending release). See https://github.com/EnvironmentOntology/envo/issues/247. With this, PCO and the dispositions requested here, we will be much closer to expressing "human population vulnerable to flooding" and several other important classes. See, for example, https://github.com/SDG-InterfaceOntology/sdgio/issues/21

cmungall commented 8 years ago

@ruthiemusker has done a lot of work on modeling resilience and related properties (e.g. how human capacity to learn, mitigate or adapt can lead to increased resilience, or how environmental properties can also lead to resilience)

ruthiemusker commented 8 years ago

Hello All, Like Chris said, I worked with a group at ETH Zurich on how to build resilience, measure resilience, or what resilience means to various actors in the food system by breaking the concept of resilience down into "attributes". I have been playing with various methods of how organization and application of these ideas makes the most sense and I would be very happy to discuss.

pbuttigieg commented 8 years ago

That would be great! This will be a key entity for quite a few socio-ecological ontologies! Would love to join this discussion / call! On 9 May 2016 23:12, "ruthiemusker" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hello All, Like Chris said, I worked with a group at ETH Zurich on how to build resilience, measure resilience, or what resilience means to various actors in the food system by breaking the concept of resilience down into "attributes". I have been playing with various methods of how organization and application of these ideas makes the most sense and I would be very happy to discuss.

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ruthiemusker commented 8 years ago

As I am very new to ontology development, GitHub, Protege, etc (but excited to learn!), most of my information is written down in word docs, powerpoints, and spreadsheets. Maybe it would be best to send some of this information around and then we can plan a call to discuss? Do you know of other groups are interested in these ontologies of resilience concepts? I haven't heard of many.

pbuttigieg commented 8 years ago

There's mounting interest from some large potential users. The conservation, agroecology, and development crowd to name a few.

Perhaps we could set up a Google drive or dropbox folder? We can help get your material into ontospace :) On 12 May 2016 01:30, "ruthiemusker" notifications@github.com wrote:

As I am very new to ontology development, GitHub, Protege, etc (but excited to learn!), most of my information is written down in word docs, powerpoints, and spreadsheets. Maybe it would be best to send some of this information around and then we can plan a call to discuss? Do you know of other groups are interested in these ontologies of resilience concepts? I haven't heard of many.

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ruthiemusker commented 8 years ago

I have created a google drive folder. Who shall I invite and what are their email addresses to use?

pbuttigieg commented 8 years ago

Please invite me with editor/invitation privileges and I'll start adding people. My address is available (viewable only once) here

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I have created a google drive folder. Who shall I invite and what are their email addresses to use?

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pbuttigieg commented 8 years ago

@ruthiemusker Thanks! A set of invites have been sent. I don't think we need a whole ontology for resilience (as the folder name suggests), but the material is very interesting. We can use PATO (and possibly some new RO classes) with other domain ontologies like ENVO and SDGIO to express resilience in many cases. Time will tell though

ramonawalls commented 8 years ago

@ruthiemusker - Thanks for sharing that information! It is quite interesting and really helpful to see the work that came out of modeling agricultural sustainability.

ruthiemusker commented 8 years ago

You're very welcome! Please let me know if you have any questions. I am curious to see how this could build into work that is currently being done, or how it could be more useful.

cfrancois7 commented 7 years ago

@rlwalls2008 @pbuttigieg @ruthiemusker I would like to know where are your progress in this field. I'm currently working to produce an ontology to translate the IPCC data of climate change risks into an ontological formulation (OWL). I don't want to (re)-create what is already done. For example, did you use the last RO release in your work? Or did you use PATO?

cmungall commented 7 years ago

@cfrancois7 your work sounds highly relevant to the SDGIO, see: https://github.com/SDG-InterfaceOntology/sdgio

Do you have a github site for your project already?

cfrancois7 commented 7 years ago

I already glanced SDGIO. I focused my work on the vulnerability based on BFO/RO/IAO & ENVO for the moment. And for the moment, in my ontology, the vulnerability or the risk isn't a disposition, but respectively the assessment (iao:data item) of the disposition to be damaged by an hazard event and the assessment of the probability/likelihood to be damaged.

It is because the disposition is realized through/by a process. Be vulnerable or the risk isn't realized in a process. Also, it is not a quality because it is not fully exhibited or manifested by the material entity itself. Indeed, the risk/vulnerability is a human concept regarding the damage potentiality of a valuable material entity.

Vulnerability is much more the measurement of a material entity to be damaged (sensitivity) in a process (classified as hazard event for this material entity) due to intrinsic quality of the material entity in certain spatiotemporal condition (exposure). This measurement could be complete with the same measurement but with adaptive capacity.

Due to my approach and the BFO standard, the SDGIO doesn't fit well for me (but I re-used a part of your sub-IAO vocabulary to avoid duplication).

If some of you are researchers in Industry Ecology, I'm interested to discuss with you. I've a paper to review before application in a journal.