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Examine concept of Equality and establish what meaning will be used in the framework. #10

Open pawn002 opened 4 years ago

pawn002 commented 4 years ago

@LonnyGomes i would bet that a new issue needs to be made about equality.

The reason I think so is that equality is hard to nail down and would entail an in depth discussion.

For example, let’s say you like the golden rule as a hint to what equality is.

“Do unto others as you would like them to do onto you”

Not everybody likes to be treated the same.

Let’s start a new issue? @coreygearhart @LonnyGomes

Originally posted by @pawn002 in https://github.com/pawn002/applied-ethics-in-design/issues/1#issuecomment-625439244

LonnyGomes commented 4 years ago

To start it off, in the context of the framework, does equality mean equivalent experiences of the presented information or equivalent access to said information (kind of playing devils advocate here).

coreygearhart commented 4 years ago

I think the later. Inclusive Design is about one product that can be used by the largest range of users, meaning different users have different experiences, but all have equivalent access to the information.

pawn002 commented 4 years ago

@coreygearhart I think Accessibility is going to be a great case study on applied ethics.

On equal access, I will go out on a limb and say that is the same as equal opportunity where the opportunity is access to information.

You comfortable with this?

On equal experience, I would like love to poke at our group and say yes, we should strive toward equal experiences. Does anyone want to take a crack at supporting this or knocking this down? @LonnyGomes @coreygearhart

LonnyGomes commented 4 years ago

On equal access, I will go out on a limb and say that is the same as equal opportunity where the opportunity is access to information.

I'm definitely on the same page as far as equal opportunity == equivalent access to information.

On equal experience, I would like love to poke at our group and say yes, we should strive toward equal experiences. Does anyone want to take a crack at supporting this or knocking this down? @LonnyGomes @coreygearhart

I can take a crack at it.

On the issue of equal experiences, I think it sounds good on paper but breaks down once one tries to quantify what the really means. The diversity of what makes us human ensures that even with fully functioning sensory capabilities we experience things differently. We all can watch the same movies, read the same book, listen to the same music but experience it differently based on what we as a person bring the experience.

The matter is further complicated when someone has a disability. By definition their experience is going to be different and if we were to hold to the constraint of providing equal experiences we are left with either having to accommodate for the lowest common denominator or concede that some groups will be left out of the experience. And even then, how do when know when we have successfully created an equal experience for all individuals? It can get really squishy really quickly.

On the other hand, if we focus on equal access to information, the aforementioned problems of subjective evaluation are replaced with a friendlier objective means of quantifying success. We then can apply UX techniques to validate if various personas have equal access to all provided information.

Had more to say but I'll stop there 😁