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then i pressed start button. green bar slowly progressed to ~15% and the i got "write protected" message!
Then, considering that no application is able to write to your drive, it looks like a hardware failure. The flash memory contained on USB pendrives is not everlasting, and, yes, flash drives can fail in a manner where you can read existing data but not write it. Or, most likely, you might have gotten "fake" drives, which report more capacity than they really have, and will fail in the same manner as soon as you exceed the real amount of flash they have (something like 512 MB or 1 GB).
Were the 2 drives you tried from the same manufacturer?
In millions of downloads of Rufus, this is really the only report I have ever gotten of a drive failing with write protected, and, while many people seem to think otherwise, Rufus does not do anything fancy to flash drives: formatting a flash drive is not a risky operation at all, and furthermore, your issue occurred while Rufus was copying files, which it does in a manner that is no different than if you had been using Windows explorer to copy them yourself. I'm pretty confident that that both your drives would have failed the same way if you had stopped Rufus right after it was done with the NTFS formatting, and then copied the files yourself using 7-zip or something else to extract the content from the ISO.
So really, if the 16 GB you used were from the same manufacturer, my best guess is that both your drives are fake. Was it the first time you copied more than 512 MB or 1 GB of data to any of them (fake drive are designed to look OK when formatting or as long as you don't copy too much data - it's only when you attempt to write more actual data than they can hold that they will reveal themselves as fakes)?
This being said, I'm also trying to analyse other possibilities, just in case:
The first thing I'm trying to do right now is get my hands on the Win7AIO-SP1-x64-Mar2014.iso
to confirm that it works as expected with a trusted 16 GB drive.
The other thing that I'd like to ask you to do, and that won't require you to attempt to use another actual flash drive, is to create a 16 GB VHD (Virtual Hard Drive) in Windows, and use Rufus 1.4.7 ALPHA (the first version to support VHDs), to see what happens if you try to copy your ISO there. As it is a virtual hard drive, even if you get the write protected issue, it won't matter.
In Windows 7, you can easily create a VHD of any size by launching "Computer Management" in Administrative Tools (from the Control Panel) and then left click on "Disk Management" under Storage on the left handside (so that it refreshes the list of disks), select any disk on the right handside, and then right click on "Disk Management" on the left handside, where you will be able to select "Create VHD". From there you can tell Windows to create a 16 GB to be used as a VHD, which Rufus 1.4.7 will detect and let use use as a flash drive.
Can you please try that and let me know how it goes?
EDIT: Rufus 1.4.7 ALPHA can be downloaded from here.
yes both are from the same manufacturer and same model and i have had used them (sometimes used full capacity of them) many times before and had no problem with them.
as for iso file, i made it from combination of these torrents and note that it is not cracked and you need to enter your own license for activation. http://194.71.107.80/torrent/9172512/Windows_7_SP1_AIO_x64_en-US_USB3_IE11_Baseline_v2 http://194.71.107.80/torrent/9787662/Windows_7_AIO_22in1_SP1_x64_en-US_IE11_USB3_Mar2014
as for lat part, i tried to make the VHD, but OK button is disabled and it needs a .vhd file. where can i get it?
This issue have happened for me too but not with Rufus. I did manage to get my USB-stick to work again. Try to search for "usb format tool" and you will find a lot of small nice program to test with. I have about 15+ different program so try that. What do you have to lose? Your USB-sticks are already useless if you can't write to them...
i have tried a lot of ways already and all failed so far. which program solved your issue?
I'm not sure which program it was. It was for some years ago. I have a list of program. Try to see if you can find them and maybe one of them can fix your problem? A Bootable USB Bootable_USB_Drive_Creator_Tool grub4dos imageUSB PeBuilder PeToUSB Ridgecrop USB FAT32 Format Universal Netboot Installer Universal-USB-Installer USB Image Tool USB Oblivion UsbDeView USBFormat USBView Win32 DiskImager XBoot
as for lat part, i tried to make the VHD, but OK button is disabled and it needs a .vhd file. where can i get it?
You don't need to provide one. The dialog is simply asking you when you want to create it (it needs a target file where it can store the virtual data). So if you enter something like C:\16GB.vhd
for the path and then set the size to 16GB, Windows will create the drive for you, mount it, and Rufus 1.4.7 will then be able to use it.
If you were able to store more than 1 or 2 GB data on your devices, then it looks like they aren't fake. But the fact that they are the same model from the same manufacturer could still hint at a hardware underlying issue. Another thing I'd like to know, since it seems that your drives failed right when the process was starting to copy a very large amount of data (the 4.6 GB sources\install.wim
) is, are your drives USB 3.0 by any chance, and are you using an extension cable to connect them.
I had reports that, because Rufus is fast, when a large amount of data is sent over a subpar USB 3.0 extension cable, it may bring forward the low quality of the connection (USB 3.0 is A LOT less tolerant to interferences than USB 2.0), which can result in device disconnection and other symptoms. I would not expect the device to become read-only though. I assume you tried plugging your devices on a different port or a different computer altogether, and found they were still read-only, right?
For what is worth, I have now tested the ISO against a 16GB Flash Drive, using version 1.4.6, and found no issues:
Rufus version: 1.4.6.440
Syslinux versions: 4.07, 5.10
Windows version: Windows 8.1 64-bit
Locale ID: 0x0409
Found USB device 'SanDisk Extreme USB Device' (0781:5580)
Using autorun.inf label for drive G: 'CDROM'
1 device found
Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 1946, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: MBR, NB Partitions: 1
Disk ID: 0x00059F74
Drive has a Windows 7 Master Boot Record
Partition 1:
Type: FAT32 LBA (0x0c)
Size: 14.9 GB (16012894208 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Boot: Yes, Recognized: Yes
Scanning image...
Disc image is an UDF image
ISO label: 'Win7AIO-SP1-x64-Mar2014'
Size: 5513576448 bytes
Has a >64 chars filename: No
Has Symlinks: No
Has a >4GB file: Yes
ReactOS: No
Uses EFI: Yes
Uses Bootmgr: Yes
Uses WinPE: No
Uses isolinux: No
Using ISO: 22in1-Win7AIO-SP1-x64-Mar2014.iso
Format operation started
Requesting disk access...
Caution: Opened drive \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE3 for write access
Will use 'G:' as volume mountpoint
I/O boundary checks disabled
Analyzing existing boot records...
Drive has a Windows 7 Master Boot Record
Drive has a FAT32 FreeDOS partition boot record
Deleting partitions...
Closing existing volume...
Clearing MBR/PBR/GPT structures...
Erasing 128 sectors
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Waiting for logical drive to reappear...
Formatting (NTFS)...
Using cluster size: 4096 bytes
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Format completed.
Writing master boot record...
Drive has a Zeroed Master Boot Record
Set bootable USB partition as 0x80
Using Rufus MBR
Found volume GUID \\?\Volume{af5a83dd-89da-11e3-824c-0018f3d01f52}\
Caution: Opened drive \\?\Volume{af5a83dd-89da-11e3-824c-0018f3d01f52} for write access
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Using Standard NTFS partition boot record
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i made VHD but no additional drive is added to my computer! what is the issue? my flash drive is usb2 and i have attached it directly to MoBo's usb port without any cable. no other PC but i have tested on other usb ports and they are still read-only.
also if it is important, in event viewer i got "the file system structure on the disk is corrupt and unusable"
also i must say that in "diskpart"," DET DIS" command give me read-only=yes while "DET VOL" command give me read-only=no
and which seteting did you used for making bootable usb with my iso?
i made VHD but no additional drive is added to my computer! what is the issue?
Make sure you use Rufus 1.4.7. As indicated above, VHD support is being introduced with version 1.4.7. Version 1.4.6 will not list VHDs. You can get 1.4.7 ALPHA here. If you still can't see it in 1.4.7, please make sure that Disk Manager lists it, and send the log.
EDIT: Once the drive is formatted, you may have to check the "List USB Hard Drives" checkbox in the advanced options for the VHD to be listed (I'll fix that for the 1.4.7 release). See here.
which seteting did you used for making bootable usb with my iso?
Default, which is what you indicated you used.
OK, i made a 10GB VHD and this is my log. (at first VHD was not listed in my computer and so i thought i did something wrong)
Rufus version: 1.4.7.453
Syslinux versions: 4.07, 5.10
Windows version: Windows 7 SP1 64-bit
Locale ID: 0x0409
Found VHD device 'Msft Virtual Disk SCSI Disk Device'
Found USB device 'Multiple Card Reader USB Device' (058F:6366)
Device eliminated because it appears to contain no media
1 device found
No volume information for disk 0x85
Disk type: Fixed, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 1305, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: MBR, NB Partitions: 0
Disk ID: 0x07A7E4C4
Drive has a Windows 7 Master Boot Record
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ISO label: 'Win7AIO-SP1-x64-Mar2014'
Size: 5513576448 bytes
Has a >64 chars filename: No
Has Symlinks: No
Has a >4GB file: Yes
ReactOS: No
Uses EFI: Yes
Uses Bootmgr: Yes
Uses WinPE: No
Uses isolinux: No
Using ISO: 22in1-Win7AIO-SP1-x64-Mar2014.iso
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N:autorun.inf already exists - keeping it
NTFS Fixup (Checkdisk)...
Volume label is Win7AIO-SP1-x64-Mar2014.
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Found VHD device 'Msft Virtual Disk SCSI Disk Device'
Device eliminated because it was detected as an USB Hard Drive (score 3 > 0)
If this device is not an USB Hard Drive, please e-mail the author of this application
NOTE: You can enable the listing of USB Hard Drives in 'Advanced Options' (after clicking the white triangle)
Found USB device 'Multiple Card Reader USB Device' (058F:6366)
Device eliminated because it appears to contain no media
0 devices found
i will be very thankful if you can help me correct my corrupt USBs.
Well, your test indicates that both Rufus and your system seem to be working as expected, and that your problem is most likely a hardware one.
Again, all Rufus was doing when your drives became read-only was copying files in the exact same manner as what would have happened if you were using Windows Explorer. At this stage, the formatting and repartitioning had long been completed, and I have to stress out that Rufus really doesn't do anything special when copying files (or even when partitioning or formatting a drive, that are as benign an operation for a flash drive as copying a file).
So your drives turning to read-only seems to indicate an issue within the flash drives themselves, as you should be able to simply repartition and reformat the drive in Disk Manager otherwise. Also, googling for 058F:6387, which is the VID:PID of your drive, the very first result returned is a mention about some of these very same drives being fake, which I can't help to find highly suspicious...
Now, considering your earlier report, please be mindful that you may not be able to tell if a drive is a fake by simply copying data on it, as Windows explorer will usually happily let you copy 16GB of data on a 16GB fake drive, without warning that something might be amiss. It's only until you read the data back and compare it that you will find something is wrong. Of course, the whole point of a fake drive is to make it look like everything is OK for as long as possible.
So my current guess then is that you actually have been issued fake drives, and that the issue you experience will only be triggered when writing a file that is larger than the actual amount of flash your fake drive contains: When writing a larger file, the drive probably wraps the data around, before the OS or firmware has a chance to read/cache, update and write back the critical data it needs to maintain on the flash (such as allocation tables, etc.), which could very well explain the issue.
As far as I'm concerned, when 2 drives, with a VID:PID that is known to have been issued for fake drives, appear to fail at the point where we are copying a single large file that is likely to far exceed the actual amount of flash contained if the drive is fake and therefore overlap, I'd say that there is a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing to the drives indeed being fake. Fake drives are unfortunately fairly widespread when purchasing media from unscrupulous Chinese manufacturer. I actually got stung myself a couple of years ago.
Can you indicate where you obtained these drives?
thanks for clarifying things. based on what you said, i assumed problem is from my usb drive's side and its brand and so tried and made another bootable 16GB usb drive which processed till 100% without any error.
sorry for doubting your nice software
i have had copied to and from both now-readonly usb drives without any errors many times before, so i doubt that first two usb drives are fake, though i am not sure. i really hope i can correct them.
that now-readonly drives are APTECH brand while the one which succeeded is HP brand.
as for where i obtained them, i got them from a normal (non-internet) shop near my home.
question: how can i delete VHD?
sorry for doubting your nice software
Not at all. I'd be suspicious of a software issue too if the same operation on 2 separate flash drives produced the same error, and these kind of issues are always worth investigating...
The guy from the link I pointed above about the fake drives mentions that he used AlcorMP_080829 to successfully recover his drive, after correcting its size to the non-fake 4 GB. That tool seems to be available from this page. Unfortunately, it's in Russian, but maybe you'll be able to use it too to recover your drives?
question: how can i delete VHD?
Normally, the VHD drive will be gone as soon as you reboot. Or you can just right click on the "Disk #" part in Disk Manager (the part where you should also see the size and "Online"), and select "Detach VHD". Then to recover the space, just use Windows Explorer to delete the .vhd
file at the location where you chose to save it.
when i right-click on "disk management", there is only "create VHD" and "attach VHD". "Detach VHD" does not exist! and i cant delete .vhd file because "the file is open in system"!
You need to click on the part that has the Disk number, NOT "Disk management". See the following screenshot:
thanks for the answer my last question: is it possible that i install windows from a bootable VHD?
In a virtual machine that uses VHDs, such as Microsoft Virtual PC, absolutely. VHD is the default Virtual Disk format for Virtual PC, so Virtual PC will treat them as if they were real drives, and of course, if you used Rufus, they will boot with whatever bootable data you chose to put on them.
Now, if you want to use them as physical drives (eg. you created a VHD and now you would like to copy it to an USB flash drive of the same capacity), then you will first have to duplicate the content using a tool like dd
, after having mounted the VHD in Disk Manager or using the .vhd
as the source (from what I can see, the VHD content is a flat copy of the disk data blocks, without anything extra added, so you should be able to use the file as the source, without having to mount it). Basically, what you want to do is clone one drive to another, except the source will be virtual rather than physical. Hope that helps.
thanks again for the answer.
Closing this issue.
In millions of downloads of Rufus, this is really the only report I have ever gotten of a drive failing with write protected
Make it two, last night my USB drive became write protected after I used Rufus to write a Windows 10 image to it.
for what it's worth, this software messes up with USB drives. definitely not a coincidence that perfectly working usb drive would take the blame after using this tool and getting your usb into write-protect state.
Exactly the same issue happened to me as what was stated originally by JH0EP commented on Apr 15, 2014.
This time version 2.16 wreak havoc two of my perfectly working USB drives and wasted enormous amount of my time trying to fix the unfixable caused by this tool.
I'm afraid that a report of 2 drives failing is not enough to conclude that the software is at fault, especially when Rufus is currently being downloaded about 3 million times each month, and the amount of reports about Rufus "seemingly" damaging drives is about what you'd expect to get from coincidental failures or people having simply bought a batch of cheap fake drives.
You have to apply logic for a little bit of logic here, and realize that, if Rufus was indeed damaging drives, there would be an awful lot of people complaining about this out of the millions who use Rufus. The fact that this is not the case, in itself, is ample evidence that Rufus is no more harmful to USB drives than Windows Explorer. Furthermore, if Rufus was doing something dodgy, it would be exceedingly easy for anyone with the proper knowledge to demonstrate that this is the case. Especially, since Rufus has gotten quite popular, I doubt that, if Rufus was really the "destroyer of drives" that some people who experienced coincidental failures would like to paint it as, hardware manufacturers, who of course have a vested interest in not multiplying costly RMAs, would have had very little trouble, in the 5 or so years that this software has existed, to, 1. identify what set of "special destructive USB commands" (since that's what people who don't know much about USB flash drive seem to believe there exists) Rufus happens to send to flash drive that causes them to fail, and 2. Get in touch with its developer about this issue.
Yet, none of that has happened, which, to say the least, isn't providing much credit to the theory that Rufus is damaging drives. Sadly, because most people aren't developers or have knowledge of how USB Mass Storage devices actually work in Windows (formatting is no more special than writing a file, and there is no set of "special commands" that one can send to a drive using any of the Windows APIs Rufus uses, to make it self destruct), I assume these words will continue fall on death ears...
Hi @pbatard :wave:
I don't think it is an isolated incident. My pen drive is also write protected. I only use my pen drive for writing Linux images. Last time I came home for vacation (4months back) I did a bad mistake of using my dad's laptop which had Rufus installed (by me of course), I was trying to troubleshoot the USB once again after my last try today (last time it lasted 3 hours googling and trying to fixing), just now confirmed the end point was Rufus. I am not here to complain about your software but maybe you could do a deep analysis of it somehow?
PS: I don't think the majority of the people know about Github in the first place (since this is a windows tool) let alone where to report an issue about Rufus. And how many people will create a new account in Github to report an issue + talk about how scary it might be for a non-geek person to try and find a way around github.
I don't think it is an isolated incident.
But if these aren't, how comes that despite having tested Rufus on every single computer and every single flash drive I could get my hands on, I have never ever been able to replicate such an issue. And neither seem to have any of the experienced power users of forums such as reboot.pro, or, as I mentioned, the manufacturers of the drives Rufus is supposed to write protect.
In other words, to go with your hypothesis, we would also have to go with the hypothesis that: I and other developers and developers who are testing USB flash drives on a daily basis have been extraordinarily lucky in never ever experiencing the issue, despite the fact that, by all account if that issue is real, we would be the most affected by it.
just now confirmed the end point was Rufus.
Not really. What you did is confirm, that either one of Rufus or your flash drive has an issue, and, considering that it's only the internal flash drive controller that can decide to switch a drive to read-only and that (and I have to stress that out, because people who have no knowledge of how USB flash drive work really don't seem to understand that point) it is simply NOT possible for an external software application that only issues USB Mass Storage commands to tell the USB Flash Drive's controller to switch the drive to read-only. Instead, it's the internal logic of the controller that does that on its own, and the only factor it uses to do that is when it detects that some flash memory cells are defective (in most cases that happens when the controller itself is trying to write data to a cell, and the controller itself detects that the operation fails. Please bear in mind that there's no external entity involved in this operation besides the internal flash drive controller).
But, hey, I hear you coming up with: "But surely Rufus is sending USB commands to the flash drive. What if there's a bug and Rufus happens to send a wrong command, such as one that might tell the controller to switch to read-only?"
Unfortunately for you (and for the many people who are unaware of what USB software development entails on Windows, and think that it's therefore easy to screw up), that's not at all what Rufus does. Rufus does NOT directly send USB commands to anything. Especially we're not building any of the USB messages that are received by the flash driver controller. So, even if the application has a bug, it's never going to translate to "Oops, I wrote bad data into an USB field and inadvertently sent an USB message that tells the controller to switch to read-only, instead of simply writing data".
Instead, what happens is that we ask Windows to perform some operations, such as "read or write sector n of device XYZ", "tell me the type of device ABC, so that I can find out if it's USB, and remove it from the list of devices I present to the user if not", and that's really it.
As a matter of fact, the way Rufus is designed, it doesn't matter one bit if a disk device is USB, SATA, SCSI, NVMe, Virtual (VHD, VMWare), because there isn't a single section in the code where we construct and send actual bus commands, such as USB ones. In fact, a lot of the enumeration code of Rufus is to eliminate things like internal drives, because otherwise, Rufus would happily let you do the exact same thing to your internal SATA drives as you can do to USB drives. And, here's the kicker: I wouldn't have to change a single line of code in Rufus to make it partition and format an internal SATA drive as opposed to an USB drive, because Rufus doesn't need to care about the protocol being used when writing the drive. As a matter of fact, Rufus can already be used with external SATA drives (provided that the BIOS sees them as removable and that you use a well-hidden cheat mode), and I didn't have to do anything special in the code to achieve this, besides ensuring that less drives get eliminated during enumeration when the cheat mode is in effect.
All this to say that all we are using in Rufus are the generic Windows API commands that let you read/write a sector or a file, and that, as per Windows design, are completely bus-agnostic. Or, to put it in terms that you may also have heard, we use the Hardware Abstraction Layer of Windows, and therefore do not have the possibility of sending straight USB commands.
Alright, so that "comeback" point 1/3 covered, so let me get to "comeback" point 2: "But what if Rufus screws up the data it sends to the Hardware Abstraction Layer? Couldn't that somehow result in Windows sending bad USB commands to the flash drive?"
There again, I'm afraid that, if you know what you are talking about, you will have to dismiss the idea. The first thing I'm gonna point out is that, if this was at all possible, then surely there would be a Windows bug here, because what one expects from a Hardware Abstraction Layer API is that it will filter bad data, and prevent potentially destructive commands from being sent on the bus. In other words, if Windows was allowing anything like that, Microsoft would have heard about it from hardware manufacturers who, again, have in their interest not to have an OS that can ever send self destruct commands to hardware by mistake.
Also, and this is the most important point, you have to realize that these APIs are very limited. For instance, here is the ONLY API call that is ever used in Rufus to write to an USB flash drive (either directly or indirectly, but the indirect calls always translate to WriteFile()
being issued in the end).
If you know a little bit about programming, you'll have to explain to me how it's possible to screw up parameters so bad that Windows will end up sending a "bad" USB command on the USB bus. If you use the wrong handle, you're not gonna be accessing the flash drive at all (unless Windows is super buggy) so we can eliminate that. And we never use Overlapped mode (which wouldn't screw us up in the first place anyway), so that leaves passing either a wrong buffer (but if you address is corrupt, you'll get a segmentation fault in the Windows application, not on the target device) or a buffer with bad data... knowing that there's nothing in the Mass Storage protocol that will make the USB bus choke on specific data content (because it's of course designed to be data agnostic, meaning that, as far as the Mass Storage USB protocol is concerned, any data you have in your buffer is just fine and there's no such thing as data that is "more valid" than other). In other words, you could write whatever random stuff you want in your buffer, it's never going to end up producing anything on the USB bus but a Mass Storage message that says "Here's some data for you, that you should write at address N". Especially, it's NEVER going to result in a non Mass Storage USB command (such as "vendor-internal: switch to read-only") being issued on the USB bus. Even if Rufus is buggy, all you'll ever get on the USB bus are regular "read sector N" or "write sector N" messages, that are the only messages Windows can produce in the way the application works, and that's it.
And with this we come nicely to "comeback" 3: "But what if you actually send garbage data for the USB controller to write, or tell it to write the data to some 'special sectors'? Surely if you do that, you may end up screwing up the drive!"
Two parts to this (NB: I'm simplifying things quite a bit here, which doesn't make the explanation any less valid, so if you want to dismiss the whole reasoning because it's not "technically accurate", you'd better be prepared to show where exactly my explanation would be disproved in the the more technically accurate picture):
WriteFile()
(which, again, after device enumeration, is the only call that Rufus ever uses that translates into sending USB bus commands) to overwrite something like the memory area that is used by the firmware (the only exception I can see for this is if you are using a "fake" drive, but if you do, then you can't expect any application, including Windows, not to mess that drive up as soon as you write more data than to it than its actual "non-fake" capacity), let alone toggle a firmware-internal flag such as "read-only" mode.So, in summary, and as I have tried to establish:
WriteFile()
since that's all it ever uses to write to a device), the only way it would be able to screw up a USB flash drive is if it were to write to the non-accessible firmware-internal flash drive memory, by attempting to write to a sector that is outside of the regular range for the device. Unfortunately, the only way that could ever happen is if both Windows and the flash drive controller are buggy, because both these entities are supposed to validate the range being accessed, and reject the request if the range is invalid. That's simply not realistic (but if you believe it is, then by all means you should complain to your hardware manufacturer first, because you have just acknowledged that they have done a very crappy job).How's that for a deep analysis?
Of course, you're welcome to ramp up your expertise on Windows APIs, Mass Storage command and USB, as well as spend some time with the Rufus source, to tell me why you (and others), still don't think what I went great length to explain above is unsatisfactory and why, surely, because you happened to experience a couple of drive failures while using Rufus, whereas millions of other Rufus users don't seem to ever have run into such such issues (and flash drive manufacturers also seem to be strangely quiet about the "destroyer of flash drives" that Rufus allegedly is), it must mean that Rufus is the culprit rather than your hardware...
PS: I don't think the majority of the people know about Github in the first place
You do realize that you're trying hard to justify why, if the problem is so widespread, the hundreds or thousands of people who have to be affected by it, out of the 3 millions that download Rufus every month, would choose not to report it.
First of all, means of contacting me by e-mail are clearly available both on the Rufus homepage and in the About dialog. And (but you'll have to trust me on this), the amount of "Rufus destroyed my flash drive" e-mail reports I get is about the same as I see from other means. Also, people do use stackoverflow, reddit, and other forums such as mydigitallife, which I monitor, and likewise, you'll be hard pressed to see the tens or hundreds of reports one would expect to see there if Rufus had such a flaw as the one you describe.
Your justification as to why so few people would report such an issue, if it was a real one, clearly does not add up, which, I'm afraid, can only mean one thing: the hardware issues people experience while using Rufus are coincidental.
Oh, and for the record, there does happen to exist buggy firmwares out there, that seem to make some brand/models of USB flash drive fail more frequently than others. For instance, as per the List of incompatible hardware from the FAQ, some PNY drives have a dodgy firmware (which the manufacturer acknowledged), and I suspect that, if you have a couple such drives, and use them with Rufus, you will find that they consistently fail, even though this has nothing to do with Rufus (the issue should happen if you write a lot of data, regardless of the application being used).
Finally, for anyone still tempted to try to push this "Rufus can destroy flash drive" story again, I'll say that any argument you are trying to make will have a lot more weight if you are able to report something like: "Hey, I bought a couple of drives from a reputable vendor (e.g. SanDisk, Adata, etc.), but when I used them with Rufus, these drives switched to read-only. So I RMA'd the drives to the vendor, describing what I did, to ask them if they could replicate the issue. They have now come back to me and confirmed that Rufus is the source of the problem because [insert explanation from people who actually have some expertise on the matter here]...".
Again, if the "problem" was as widespread as you say, and I as I pointed out before, there's no way flash drive manufacturers would choose to ignore it, and you should be able to get strong evidence about Rufus being the cause of the issue from the manufacturers themselves or power users with some USB expertise (e.g. people who know how to run an USB bus trace). Yet, despite the isolated but usually very voiceful complaints I have seen here and there about Rufus damaging flash drives, and despite Rufus having been quite popular for years, I'm still waiting for such reports...
I have lost 3 USB drives to this same issue from different vendors. This is across 2 different laptops, both running windows 10.
This is a screenshot of what I was doing. To date, i have not been able to recover any of them.
I have lost 3 USB drives to this same issue from different vendors.
Full make and model please, and capacity. Did you purchase them from the same vendor? When were they purchased? Also, what was the log from Rufus? I would expect that, by the 3rd time, you would be taking a close look at the Rufus log to see what's going on. Do you at least remember the error Rufus produced? And have you ever tried running a bad blocks check before trying to copy an ISO? If so, what did the bad blocks check report? What did the vendor(s) say when you RMA'd your drives? If they are recent purchases, you should have no trouble RMAing them. If, on the other hand you cannot RMA these failed drives, it means that they are pretty old, and therefore more prone to having memory issues.
I'd really like people who want to complain about Rufus consistently "destroying" drives to be consistent and produce bad blocks reports, especially when there are plenty of cheap drives out there, who either use poor quality flash memory or straight up lie about their capacity ("fake" drive) resulting in failure as soon as an application (any application, including File Explorer) writes more data to the drive than its actual capacity. Surely, if you start to see drives being damaged, you should have all the reasons in the world to check the next one you're gonna use for bad blocks, to get some indication about the actual health of your drive before you use it.
To date, i have not been able to recover any of them.
What do you see in Windows Disk Manager? Have you tried plugging them on a Linux machine? What does dmesg
on Linux report after you plug them?
Finally is that 4GB drive from your screenshot a 4th USB drive? Coz if it's not, then clearly it's being recognized...
I have now explained at length why its is simply not possible for Rufus, even if it has a major bug, to damage flash drives. You may choose to believe otherwise, because you happened to end up with drives that appeared to fail while you were using Rufus, but I'm afraid that you will have to point the finger elsewhere. It is simply not possible for an application that only exclusively uses WriteFile()
to access USB Flash Drives to make these drive fails.
But please feel to dismiss this fact as something that "of course the developer of a problematic application is going to lie about" and also feel free to invite your hardware manufacturers to investigate the true causes of your drive failures, when you RMA your drives. As I explained, if the problem is really as widespread and consistent as the few people who seem to have experienced it make it to be, hardware manufacturers, who do have a very vested interest in singling out applications that may "destroy" their drives, should have no problem backing up these claims.
PS: It would also be of great interest to have the manufacturers of your drives to explain the specific conditions under which a flash drive will switch to read-only, because this is certainly not something that can be controlled remotely by an application, and, instead, is triggered by the internal firmware running on the flash drive controllers. Therefore, the manufacturer of a flash drive should be able to get very precise technical details on why it would switch to read-only.
Hi Pete,
I can setup a webex to show what happens on my computer when I try and use the tool.
I am not a developer, other folks in my office seem to use it fine. I have not RMA’d any of the UBS stick as most are from vendors at trade shows.
John
I can setup a webex to show what happens on my computer when I try and use the tool.
I'd rather you answer all the questions I asked. Or provide a log from Rufus. Webex will not tell me anything more that I can't get from the log.
I have not RMA’d any of the UBS stick as most are from vendors at trade shows.
Well, if I know one thing from trade shows is that they're certainly not going to give quality drives for free. If they went with the cheapest seller, there's a good chance some of these drives to be fake, which would explain a lot...
As I said, any attempt to point the finger at Rufus will be a lot more credible if you actually RMA the drive and get some info from the vendor as to what they think have caused the failure...
Same problem with 3 my pen drive :(
And same questions as here.
Unless you can provide comprehensive details, I'm going to have to assume a lot of things, which aren't going to be in your favour, such as:
Could not delete drive layout
" as OP reported. Coz, if you didn't get an error, it means that your drive clearly wasn't read-only by the time Rufus was done with it, and you shouldn't piggyback on a thread that says "Rufus write protected my USB drives" when your drives apparently turned to read-only long after you were done with Rufus. In other words, unless you can report an error, I'm going to assume that Rufus had no issue creating your drives, but that they turned read-only later on, and that you are jumping on the bandwagon of "Rufus write protected my USB drives" because you happened to use Rufus once, on flash drives that have become defective.So, it's fine and all to want to report that you have failed drives, but you also need to be prepared to provide comprehensive details about these drives. Piggybacking on this thread to say "me too" is not going to help anyone, be it the people who think that Rufus can somehow turn a drive to read-only, or the people who are trying to demonstrate that the explanation for this behaviour has to be found elsewhere.
Hello Pete,
I appreciate you addressing this issue with a full bloat of logical explanation. How about you loosen up a bit, be open minded and see the bigger picture here.
The incidents clearly imply that random USB drive, doesn't matter what brand or make, be it cheap or high-end "can be" damaged by Rufus. This may be superficial to your point of view but isn't this a notion for future improvement of this tool.
Unreported incidents should not be taken out of the equation here as that is a bit small thinking. There may be millions of satisfied users using this tool but the isolated incidents affecting a fraction of this million, are in hundreds or even a thousand. Very puny percentile compared to the lucky million users.
The incident reports are purely identical. Random user, downloaded Rufus, plugged-in USB, modified setting based on his/her requirement, ran the tool and voila! Isn't that definitive enough to ponder about?
IMO, it would be nice if this will be investigated further by your team and not just be taken for granted. I totally get the point of coincidence but that gives me the idea that this tool somehow catalyzes the probability of ruining a perfectly working USB drive. What went wrong? That is something to probe further by Rufus DevOps. There could be a common denominator in these wrecked drives that Rufus is just unfriendly about.
Either way, I've stated my point, I am not here to be a burden, I'm just a messenger. I look forward to the improvement of this tool.
PS: I still have the corpse of my late USB drive, should you need it, I'd be happy to donate for autopsy.
How about you loosen up a bit, be open minded and see the bigger picture here.
I'm afraid that all I'm seeing from these reports is people who consistently fail to provide detailed information about their failed drives. Every time I have been asking for a make and model of these failed drives recently, and whether they had been recently been checked for bad blocks, I am met with stony silence.
The incidents clearly imply that random USB drive, doesn't matter what brand or make, be it cheap or high-end "can be" damaged by Rufus.
I beg to very much differ. Especially, since people don't want to report the make or model of their drives, and also, don't seem to care that much about RMA'ing them (which should be no trouble if they got it from a reputable brand, such as SanDisk), I don't see how you can conclude that it doesn't matter what brand or make. Especially, it could be that all the people who are reporting these issues have been using PNY drives (the ones with the faulty firmware), but since noone actually wants to provide any data that would help draw some conclusions about the real cause of the issue, it doesn't look like we'll ever know... The only information I've gotten so far about the kind of drives that appear to have been damaged are that these had been gotten for free, and therefore, unlikely to be high quality.
At this stage, I am very puzzled: Why does it seem to hard for people to actually report the brand and model of the USB Flash Drives that they say Rufus turned to read-only? Surely, if one does care about this issue being explained, they should have no trouble providing this kind of information.
Or do you guys really think that I'm secretly sitting on a stack of damaged drives, and that I'm simply pretending everything is fine? For the record, I have used dozens of USB flash drives with Rufus, on all kind of Windows platforms. If the issue was as prevalent as it is, I should be one of the people most affected by it. Yet, I have never ever gotten a drive that switched to read-only after using Rufus. And, as I pointed out, neither seem to have the many power users who use Rufus on a daily basis, also with all kind of flash drives. So, what's the most logical here? That the people who are most prone to confirm that there is an actual issue with Rufus, and provide comprehensive details that validate that Rufus is the cause of it, have been super lucky with their day-to-day usage of it? Or that it only affects people who happen to use unreliable drives (e.g. the stuff you get at trade shows - I got one of these once, and it barely lasted one year... and that was a quite some time before I started developing Rufus, so even if I wanted to, I could hardly blame Rufus for that failure) and/or aren't tech savvy enough to provide comprehensive data about the potential failure (such as, whether they ever tested their drive for bad blocks/ fake drive, the error/log they got from Rufus, what other platforms report when they plug the drive, in order to confirm that it is indeed failed).
Unreported incidents should not be taken out of the equation here as that is a bit small thinking.
Again, why on earth wouldn't tech-savvy people or manufacturers not report software that is allegedly damaging hardware? If you want to go with the hypothesis that Rufus does damage flash drives, then you also have to go with the hypothesis that, out of the 3 million people who download it each month, there's bound to be some who have enough expertise to provided comprehensive reports about the failure, such as a repeated test demonstrating the failure with an USB bus trace (not that difficult to get on Windows) and the kind of detailed information I asked above. Again, if Rufus was the "destroyer" of drives that people in this thread seem to want to insist it is, then surely we'd find that information plastered all over the many social media sites that people like to frequent (such as Reddit, and user forums). Yet, we're certainly not seeing the "DON'T USE RUFUS!1!! IT'LL DESTROY YOUR FLASH DRIVES!" message one would expect to see there if that was actually the case. In the age where anybody can post whatever opinion they like, it's surprising that social media are awfully quiet of an issue that is supposed to affect such the large number of people you assert it affects.
The incident reports are purely identical. Random user, downloaded Rufus, plugged-in USB, modified setting based on his/her requirement, ran the tool and voila!
And yet, here I am, having tested Rufus in every condition imaginable, against a whole plethora of flash drives, and never ever having experienced this issue. And neither seem to have the many experienced people from reboot.pro (who tend to have some knowledge of these matters, and some of which i know use Rufus), or the people who use Rufus in a professional manner, even more frequently than I do, and from whom I don't recall ever receiving any e-mail such as "Rufus seems to destroy the flash drives I use" (and yet will have no trouble e-mailing "Thank you for Rufus" messages from time to time).
So, I'm afraid it's not "voila". There's something more to it, and, strangely, that something more does not affect the people who should be most affected...
Isn't that definitive enough to ponder about?
The only definitive I have from this thread is:
So, there we stand. If that's your definition of "definitive enough", then I think we have a very different opinion about what constitutes definitive data, especially if we consider the whole picture and the duration of time this thread was open for anyone with this issue to comment.
IMO, it would be nice if this will be investigated further by your team and not just be taken for granted.
Sigh. What people don't seem to understand is that I did just that when I explained how Rufus does not actually do anything different to access a USB flash drive or a regular HDD (and Rufus can access any SATA/SCSI HDDs if you use Ctrl-Alt-F and have set them to removable in your BIOS), and is only using the Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer and the super-abstracted WriteFile()
call.
At this stage, I feel like I'm trying to demonstrate to people how the earth is round, by talking about the length of shadows taken at the same time at different latitudes and trigonometry, and the only answer I get is "well, I don't know about trigonometry, so, as far as I'm concerned, even if any specialist is going to have no choice but to agree with your proof, I'm still not seeing any evidence that the earth isn't flat".
I look forward to the improvement of this tool.
Not as much as a look forward to anyone who will actually demonstrate that it's actually possible to use the Hardware Abstraction Layer of Windows to turn a USB flash drive to read only, be it by pointing to the code section of Rufus that actually manages to do just that, or a RMA report from a flash drive manufacturer that indicates that their engineers confirmed that Rufus sends damaging commands to USB Flash Drives.
Since I already went over the topic, it appears that your current expectation is that I'm also going to teach people trigonometry (i.e. software programming on Windows), so that you can finally accept the scientific conclusion that the earth is indeed round (i.e. that Rufus can simply not damage flash drives in the way described here). I'm afraid that's not going to happen. And I'm also afraid that, no, as much as you'd like to think otherwise, even in the large amount of code that Rufus uses, it is not possible for a software developer overlook something as dramatic as inadvertently sending self-destruct commands on the USB bus. We're not talking about a NULL pointer, or an index being overflown, that could "somehow" translate into dodgy vendor-internal USB commands being sent instead of the regular Mass Storage ones (which again, is the only way you'll get USB flash drives to toggle to read-only from an external cause). But hey, if you or anyone can provide me with the full set of conditions that will for sure turn a drive to read-only (rather than an "I've seen it happen, so everybody else should see it too!"), and that I can replicate on one of my various test machines, I'll be happy to perform an in depth USB trace analysis for you, to provide further evidence that whatever you think you've seen happening does not have anything to do with using Rufus.
PS: I still have the corpse of my late USB drive, should you need it, I'd be happy to donate for autopsy.
I'm fine with that (if you don't mind paying postage - if you e-mail me, I'll give you my address), but I'd rather get the make and model of that drive, as well as where you purchased it, plus some comprehensive details about the environment you were using Rufus on, since, if the issue is as certain as some people here seem to believe it is, I should have no problem getting the same failure with a brand new drive. Heck, as soon as someone comes to me with "I've been getting consistent failure on drive X from brand Y, which I purchased at Z, when used with Rufus" (as long as these are not the PNY drives which we know have a buggy firmware), I'll be happy to go purchase a couple of these drives on my own, to try to see what the story is.
But, as long as people here consider that the problem is so widespread that providing actionable evidence is superfluous (and that, no matter how many details I try to provide about the internals of programmatically accessing an USB Flash Drive in Windows, I must definitely have overlooked a section of code that can actually destroy drives), I'm going to continue to wait for reports that provide enough data to actually be acted upon.
My Flash drive's make was Sandisk, model Cruzer Egde, capacity 4GB. I was using it in Windows 10 to write a Windows 10 image to the drive, after which it became read-only.
I don't have the flashdrive now, as I threw it somewhere I don't remember. Therefore I cannot generate any diagnostic details/logs you would want to investigate.
It's because I happened to read your comment, quoted below, I commented here about the incident. I just thought you should know.
In millions of downloads of Rufus, this is really the only report I have ever gotten of a drive failing with write protected
Regarding your comment quoted below:
I'm afraid that all I'm seeing from these reports is people who consistently fail to provide detailed information about their failed drives.
Having no knowledge of how USB works I didn't know what details you would have wanted if you were to investigate the issue. May be if you had guidelines on how to get the required logs/ what all information should be included while reporting, I would have included them.
If you are willing to acknowledge incidents like this and collect such reports to find a pattern, please do make it easy for people like me with no knowledge about USB to report such incidents.
It would be nice if you could create a form like I have created here Or if you could provide a form in your own website
Or if you could create an auto template for GitHub issues opened for this repo.
Or if you could at least provide guidelines in your wiki on how to get the logs & details you would want.
Only if you are willing.
My Flash drive's make was Sandisk, model Cruzer Egde, capacity 4GB.
Thanks. But as I tried to explain, seeing a one drive failure is not that indicative of an issue. The flash memory used in USB devices has a limited number of write cycles before it will fail, at which case the controller present on the USB drive may switch it to read-only. This will happen regardless of the application being used. As opposed to people reporting consistent multiple failures when using different drives from different brands while using Rufus, knowing what I know about flash memory, I am pretty confident that, out of the million people who download Rufus each month, there's probably going to be tens or hundreds who will experience a coincidental drive failure while using it (especially people using cheap drives), because any USB flash drive will eventually fail while using it. And I'm not even talking about the people who will have gotten "fake" drives, that report a wrong capacity and that are therefore bound to fail no matter what. But the same is true of people simply using Windows File Explorer or other applications (i.e. drives will fail in the same rate regardless of what you use to write to them). Unfortunately, what many people don't seem to realize is that the rate of failure of flash drive is a lot higher than the one from regular HDD, though this has fortunately improved in recent years, when using reputable brands.
If one were to consider that every single punctual failure of an USB Flash drive, that occurred while using a specific application, was indicative of an issue with that application, then nobody would publish any application that may write to flash drives, including OS manufacturers like Apple or Microsoft. Because, no matter what you do, the rate of failure of USB Flash Drives is just much higher than with other media (again, especially when using cheap drives as these would tend to use the type of flash memory that has the lowest life expectancy), and users of your application or your OS will definitely happen to see flash drives failing at a much higher rate than they would see HDDs or SSDs (since SSDs tend to use more reliable memory than thumb drives).
So, unless you do see consistent failures of flash drives while using Rufus, it's difficult to receive your issue as indicative of an application issue. As I said, I definitely expect tens of people to be able to report that they experienced a failed USB drive while using Rufus each month. But I also expect exactly the same percentage of people to report a USB drive failure when simply using Windows File Explorer or another application to copy files.
I don't have the flashdrive now, as I threw it somewhere I don't remember. Therefore I cannot generate any diagnostic details/logs you would want to investigate.
That's fine. I think you probably could have RMA'd your drive as SanDisk tend to provide a fair amount of warranty, but that was your call.
As to the log, what I'm really after is the log at the time of failure, just as OP provided. Even if Rufus failed to complete its task, you can always click on the Log button and then post that log. If we could get a bunch of such log, I may have a better time convincing people that what they are observing is the expected rate of failure, by showing that there's no real common denominator between these logs.
If you are willing to acknowledge incidents like this
I am willing, if people also acknowledge that USB flash drives do fail, at a much higher rate than other storage devices, and that the occasional single drive failure is by no means indicative of an application issue, unless it happens to consistently affect a very large number of people, including people who use Rufus on a daily basis, power users who are aware of flash drive reliability and can easily determine whether an application like Rufus appears to destroy drives at a higher rate than Windows File Explorer, and so on. As I said, I do expect tens of people every month to be able to report that their USB Flash Drive will have failed while using Rufus, as part of the regular wear and tear one does expect from using such devices. But I also expect any of these people to not see any more failure (unless they are very unlucky) if they switch to using a brand new drive, or a drive from a different batch, which, for instance, is exactly what OP saw. Now, if that can be confirmed to not being the case, I am interested. But then I'll expect that the first people affected will be the small shops and power users who use Rufus on a daily basis, and have a bunch of drives lying around... which have been way too silent on the matter so far for me not to deduce that, along with the impossibility that is having Windows WriteFile()
sending the kind of destructive command to flash drives that non programmers imagine it can, what people have been experiencing so far is entirely external to Rufus.
please do make it easy for people like me with no knowledge about USB to report such incidents.
Well, if you create a new issue, you will get a very clear checklist (github auto-template) of what you should do to help troubleshoot a problem, including a super explicit request to please please please paste the full log from Rufus. Now, the problem is, when people simply piggyback on an issue they don't see the checklist, so they don't provide the data that is needed. For the record, piggybacking on an issue is usually a bad idea: "Me too" posts are a lot less helpful than creating a new issue, as doing so makes it a lot easier to determine if the issue is really the same or not. For instance, I'd expect most people to title the issue with the error they got from Rufus, which would already provide a good indication of whether the drive failed at the same stage. And if one pastes the log as requested, I don't even need to ask for manufacturer and model, as I can get it from there, as well as other insightful details.
In summary, by all means, if you do see consistent failures when using Rufus with multiple drives, you should create a new issue and follow the check list (as well as please try to properly check the reliability of any new drive you are planning to use). But if you only experienced a one-of failure, I'm not going to do much about your report, besides advising you to maybe try to see if you can recover your drive using Linux, or any other advice that will seem pertinent according to the data I'm seeing from the log.
I did not want to open a new issue as i was not aware this had happened when this key was created and hence don't have that log. I wrote a Linux image to an 8GB USB key in windows 10 and now the key is write protected. I am using rufus-2.6 and a SMART Modular Technologies USB key model: SH9FLAMKS. This is far from a cheap key, you may find it hard to find info on them as they are vendor supplied keys for doing IBM Mainframe HMC backups, i have never seen one fail short of being stepped on... I cant format it or do anything other than read from it now.
Edit: The only other thing i can think may be useful is rufus downloaded syslinux-6.03 20151222 to create the key. Here are the logs for when i try and use rufus with it now:
Rufus version: 2.6.818
Windows version: Windows 10 64-bit (Build 14393)
Syslinux versions: 4.07/2013-07-25, 6.03/2014-10-06
Grub versions: 0.4.6a, 2.02~beta2
Locale ID: 0x0409
Found USB 2.0 device 'SMART USB 8GB 3 USB Device' (0E39:1014)
NOTE: This device is an USB 3.0 device operating at lower speed...
Using autorun.inf label for drive N: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
1 device found
Disk type: Removable, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 962, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: GPT, NB Partitions: 1
Disk GUID: {16093ABF-C7DE-419E-B02C-38E50F1EA851}
Max parts: 128, Start Offset: 17408, Usable = 7918811648 bytes
Partition 1:
Type: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Name: 'Microsoft Basic Data'
ID: {374C2E48-0E94-4047-B5D4-FF84A8019878}
Size: 7.4 GB (7917780480 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Attributes: 0x0000000000000000
Scanning image...
ISO analysis:
Image is an ISO9660 image
Will use '/isolinux/isolinux.cfg' for Syslinux
Detected Syslinux version: 6.03/20151222 (from '/isolinux/isolinux.bin')
Could not get ISO-9660 file information for file boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod
Could not read Grub version from 'boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod'
Could not detect Grub version
Disk image analysis:
Image has an unknown Master Boot Record
Image is a bootable disk image
ISO label: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
Size: 865075200 bytes
Has a >64 chars filename: Yes
Has Symlinks: Yes
Has a >4GB file: No
Uses Bootmgr: No
Uses EFI: Yes
Uses Grub 2: No
Uses Grub4DOS: No
Uses isolinux: Yes (6.03)
Uses KolibriOS: No
Uses ReactOS: No
Uses WinPE: No
Using image: ubuntu-16.04.3-server-amd64.iso
Will reuse 'ldlinux.sys' and 'ldlinux.bss' from './rufus_files/rufus_files/syslinux-6.03/20151222/' for Syslinux installation
Format operation started
Requesting disk access...
Opened drive \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE2 for write access
Will use 'N:' as volume mountpoint
I/O boundary checks disabled
Analyzing existing boot records...
Drive has a Zeroed Master Boot Record
Volume has an unknown Partition Boot Record
Deleting partitions...
Could not delete drive layout: [0x0000045D] The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
Could not reset partitions
Re-mounted volume as 'N:' after error
Found USB 2.0 device 'SMART USB 8GB 3 USB Device' (0E39:1014)
NOTE: This device is an USB 3.0 device operating at lower speed...
Using autorun.inf label for drive N: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
1 device found
Disk type: Removable, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 962, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: GPT, NB Partitions: 1
Disk GUID: {16093ABF-C7DE-419E-B02C-38E50F1EA851}
Max parts: 128, Start Offset: 17408, Usable = 7918811648 bytes
Partition 1:
Type: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Name: 'Microsoft Basic Data'
ID: {374C2E48-0E94-4047-B5D4-FF84A8019878}
Size: 7.4 GB (7917780480 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Attributes: 0x0000000000000000
Found USB 2.0 device 'SMART USB 8GB 3 USB Device' (0E39:1014)
NOTE: This device is an USB 3.0 device operating at lower speed...
Using autorun.inf label for drive N: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
1 device found
Disk type: Removable, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 962, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: GPT, NB Partitions: 1
Disk GUID: {16093ABF-C7DE-419E-B02C-38E50F1EA851}
Max parts: 128, Start Offset: 17408, Usable = 7918811648 bytes
Partition 1:
Type: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Name: 'Microsoft Basic Data'
ID: {374C2E48-0E94-4047-B5D4-FF84A8019878}
Size: 7.4 GB (7917780480 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Attributes: 0x0000000000000000
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What happens if you try to repartition the key in Linux? Can you also try to zero it there (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd# bs=4M
where #
is the letter for your USB device — be mindful that this command could zero your other disk devices if you are not careful, so please, if you're not familiar with Linux, double check that the /dev/sd#
device you use is really your USB target, and not another disk).
Also, I'm seeing that this device is USB 3.0, but Rufus indicates that it's operating at lower speed. Are you using any extension cables at all? Please be mindful that USB 3.0 is very sensitive to using extension cables, and I've seen I/O errors being generated when people used cables that were either of poor quality, or that had degraded over time.
I should also point out that the version of Rufus you use is very old. Please make sure you try with version 2.16, in case you are simply hitting an issue that was fixed or for which there exists a workaround (such as another application keeping a lock to the drive an preventing access, which Rufus 2.16 will be more verbose about).
When trying to partition in Linux i get dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb1' : read-only file system
When i made the key initially i did use a front USB port so there was an expansion cable of sorts but i have not had any issues in the past. I have tried with it directly attached now but it seems that once it is read only it is not going to be simple... or maybe possible at all to get it back!
As for the second part that was human error on my part, i thought 2.6 was newer but i am thinking now its 2.06 not 2.6... Goes to should you should clean out your downloads folder! When i try with 2.16 i do get a different error the first time and i get this same error on multiple PCs "The device is in use by another process. Please close any process that may be accessing the device. C:\Windows\explorer.exe (r)" I assume this is because of autostart as when i try again shortly after i get the usual IO error.
Rufus version: 2.16.1170
Windows version: Windows 10 64-bit (Build 14393)
Syslinux versions: 4.07/2013-07-25, 6.03/2014-10-06
Grub versions: 0.4.6a, 2.02
System locale ID: 0x0409
Will use default UI locale 0x0409
SetLGP: Successfully set NoDriveTypeAutorun policy to 0x0000009E
Localization set to 'en-US'
Found non-USB removable device 'C300-CTFDDAC128MAG' => Eliminated
Found non-USB removable device 'Corsair Force GS' => Eliminated
0 devices found
Found non-USB removable device 'C300-CTFDDAC128MAG' => Eliminated
Found non-USB removable device 'Corsair Force GS' => Eliminated
Found USB 2.0 device 'SMART USB 8GB 3 USB Device' (0E39:1014)
NOTE: This device is an USB 3.0 device operating at lower speed...
Using autorun.inf label for drive N: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
1 device found
Disk type: Removable, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 962, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: GPT, NB Partitions: 1
Disk GUID: {16093ABF-C7DE-419E-B02C-38E50F1EA851}
Max parts: 128, Start Offset: 17408, Usable = 7918811648 bytes
Partition 1:
Type: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Name: 'Microsoft Basic Data'
ID: {374C2E48-0E94-4047-B5D4-FF84A8019878}
Size: 7.4 GB (7917780480 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Attributes: 0x0000000000000000
Format operation started
Requesting disk access...
Opened \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE2 for exclusive write access
Requesting lock...
Will use 'N:' as volume mountpoint
I/O boundary checks disabled
Requesting lock...
Analyzing existing boot records...
Drive has a Zeroed Master Boot Record
Volume has an unknown Partition Boot Record
Clearing MBR/PBR/GPT structures...
Erasing 128 sectors
write_sectors: Write error [0x0000045D] The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
StartSector: 0x00000000, nSectors: 0x1, SectorSize: 0x200
Could not reset partitions
Re-mounted volume as 'N:' after error
Found non-USB removable device 'C300-CTFDDAC128MAG' => Eliminated
Found non-USB removable device 'Corsair Force GS' => Eliminated
Found USB 2.0 device 'SMART USB 8GB 3 USB Device' (0E39:1014)
NOTE: This device is an USB 3.0 device operating at lower speed...
Using autorun.inf label for drive N: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
1 device found
Disk type: Removable, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 962, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: GPT, NB Partitions: 1
Disk GUID: {16093ABF-C7DE-419E-B02C-38E50F1EA851}
Max parts: 128, Start Offset: 17408, Usable = 7918811648 bytes
Partition 1:
Type: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Name: 'Microsoft Basic Data'
ID: {374C2E48-0E94-4047-B5D4-FF84A8019878}
Size: 7.4 GB (7917780480 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Attributes: 0x0000000000000000
Format operation started
Requesting disk access...
Opened \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE2 for exclusive write access
Requesting lock...
Will use 'N:' as volume mountpoint
I/O boundary checks disabled
Requesting lock...
Analyzing existing boot records...
Drive has a Zeroed Master Boot Record
Volume has an unknown Partition Boot Record
Clearing MBR/PBR/GPT structures...
Erasing 128 sectors
write_sectors: Write error [0x0000045D] The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
StartSector: 0x00000000, nSectors: 0x1, SectorSize: 0x200
Could not reset partitions
Re-mounted volume as 'N:' after error
Found non-USB removable device 'C300-CTFDDAC128MAG' => Eliminated
Found non-USB removable device 'Corsair Force GS' => Eliminated
Found USB 2.0 device 'SMART USB 8GB 3 USB Device' (0E39:1014)
NOTE: This device is an USB 3.0 device operating at lower speed...
Using autorun.inf label for drive N: 'Ubuntu-Server 16.04.3 LTS amd64'
1 device found
Disk type: Removable, Sector Size: 512 bytes
Cylinders: 962, TracksPerCylinder: 255, SectorsPerTrack: 63
Partition type: GPT, NB Partitions: 1
Disk GUID: {16093ABF-C7DE-419E-B02C-38E50F1EA851}
Max parts: 128, Start Offset: 17408, Usable = 7918811648 bytes
Partition 1:
Type: {EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7}
Name: 'Microsoft Basic Data'
ID: {374C2E48-0E94-4047-B5D4-FF84A8019878}
Size: 7.4 GB (7917780480 bytes)
Start Sector: 2048, Attributes: 0x0000000000000000
Edit: Thanks for fixing the formatting :)
When trying to partition in Linux i get
dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb1' : read-only file system
Then this means that the flash memory is most certainly defective, which the flash memory controller on the drive detected, and as a result, toggled your drive to read-only so that you can at least attempt to retrieve data from the drive.
What most people don't seem to realize is that there is internal logic, on most flash drives, that attempts to detect when the memory goes defective. In some flash drives, the end result might be that the controller simply decides that the memory is no longer accessible, in which case you may see a message about media being missing (mostly because manufacturers tend to use similar internal firmware for card-readers and flash drives). In others, like yours, the controller will try to give you a chance to read data, by switching the drive to read-only.
At any rate, I can guarantee that even a super buggy Rufus has absolutely no way of triggering this internal behaviour from flash drive controllers. As you can see from testing on Linux, the read-only behaviour is something that is internal to the drive, and not linked to the OS or application being used. And there is no set of commands, that can be sent over the USB bus, when accessing a drive in Mass Storage mode, that'll tell a flash drive controller to switch to read-only. This is pretty much what I tried to explain above: unless Windows or the flash drive firmware, or most likely both, have a major bug, there is zero possibility that Rufus can send anything but Mass Storage or USB descriptor retrieval commands (again, none of which are being built or decided by Rufus itself), which are a well defined type of USB transfers and unable to conflict with or be misinterpreted as a potential Vendor Command that may (because there's not even any guarantee that such commands exist in the first place, as it's up to the manufacturer to implement these, and, even if they are implemented each manufacturer will use completely different and incompatible command from the next) exist, as a hidden feature, for a specific flash drive.
So, the most likely scenario is:
or maybe possible at all to get it back!
Depending on your manufacturer, your drive, and, more importantly, "luck", you may be able to get your hand on a vendor-specific tool, that'll send a very proprietary set of vendor commands to the drive and tell the firmware to un-toggle the read-only flag. I would usually advise against this, as the flash memory is likely to fail again and at the very least, you should run a bad blocks check before you attempt to use the drive again, since it's easy to think your drive was "recovered", when the underlying issue is that it'll only look this way until you happen to write to the defective region of flash memory... which, because it is not mapped to a permanent sector on the drive, in order to reduce wear and tear, has most likely moved to a completely different sector from the one it was mapped to when it failed.
What this means is that, you might be able to "get it back", but it'll probably only be a matter of time until it fails again, and the first thing you should do on a "recovered" drive is run a thorough bad block check.
I just used Rufus for the first time, and it seems to have worked fine. Nevertheless, I wound up reading this forum for some reason, and found it to be one of the most interesting, entertaining, and educational pieces of its type I've ever read. Thanks.
I just stumbled across this forum and made an account because two of my USB drives, which worked perfectly, are now stuck in write only after using Rufus with them.
I didn't check to grab the logs at the time, and I'm extremely wary to risk ruining another drive by using Rufus.
Honestly, pbatard, I'm very disappointed with how you're responding to the community here. I even made an account to comment on it.
Several people have lost use of their devices after using their product. Rather than insist everyone coming here must have faulty or "fake" hardware, perhaps acknowledge that there could be an issue that needs fixing with your software?
perhaps acknowledge that there could be an issue that needs fixing with your software?
You're free not to believe my very logical and detailed explanation as to why it is simply just not possible for Rufus to destroy flash drives. However, that doesn't make it any less valid.
Again, I'm very open to detailed reports from manufacturers, developers or power users who have some knowledge of how USB Flash Drives are designed (and how Windows actually accesses them), that provide some evidence that Rufus does have an issue.
And again, in case you all wonder, I am eating my own dog food here, and I use Rufus more or less on a daily basis, in various environments, to test new ISOs and/or features. Yet, I am not sitting on a stack of dead drives, which makes it exceedingly difficult to, first, give much credit to the idea that Rufus damages drive, and second, try to come up with a plausible scenario where damage could be incurred by Rufus. I already went through a description of how Rufus accesses flash drives, which, in case you didn't realize it, stands for a code review of trying to ascertain how Rufus "could" damage drives. And this code review hasn't yielded anything that could explain the alleged behaviour.
So, if you are annoyed that the only response you get from me is "That simply cannot happen, because of X, Y and Z", you'll just have to do a bit better than reply "It so can!". I provided some details about how Rufus actually accesses drives, and how it doesn't send any direct commands on the USB bus, or anything that could be construed as such through the Windows Hardware Abstraction Layer and the Mass Storage protocol. Thus, if you want to make this "issue" progress, you'll have to come up with technical feedback from experts, because I've already provided mine.
@Sopor- this works for me. Thanks. :)
Some cheap USB sticks fail when their internal memory chips cannot be written. The internal controller chip switches to read-only mode so that you can rescue files that you had in the stick, and copy them to another drive.
Some cheap USB sticks fail when their internal controller chip cannot communicate with their internal memory chips. The internal controller chip reports no media. You cannot rescue your files unless you're the manufacturer or if you have special tools that the manufacturer is supposed to use for their own purposes.
Now, here's my guess about why Rufus and Etcher have a disproportionately large frequency of encountering these errors.
People use Rufus and Etcher to write several gigabytes in a short time.
I bet the internal electronics overheat in cheap USB sticks.
...so plug the cheap USB stick into a short extension cable, put it in a plastic bag, and drop it into an ice bucket.
I don't think an ice bucket would suffice. When the stick's outer case is made of plastic and there's an air gap between the chips and the case, I think they do a good job of insulating.
I have one USB stick whose outer case is made of metal. I don't know if that's enough to keep the internal electronics cool though. I haven't tried writing several gigabytes in a short time to it.
Maybe we can suggest that anyone who has a reason for using Rufus or Etcher should buy a new USB stick with a good warranty, and use the warranty when the stick dies. Don't put important files on the same USB stick as the OS.
Last night I figured out a possible workaround, but I have mixed feelings. Application software shouldn't have to cover hardware manufacturers' asses, but innocent bystanders would benefit if their USB sticks don't die. Maybe write chunks of 10MB at a time, and wait 2 seconds after each 10MB.
I tried rufus with 2 of my USB drives. One was HP and another Sandisk, so not cheap really. I was writing an ISO of Ubuntu. Both of my drives ended up being readonly. They were both fine before. Now I am searching how to recover the drives and landed on this issue.
0$417. Yesterday I had a 2-month-old USB stick start reporting "no media" so today I bought one of the non-cheap brands you mentioned.
If yours converted to readonly then you can copy your existing data off of it. I can't because mine reports "no media". Fortunately I was using mine as a backup and I still had another backup at hand so I could copy from my other backup onto my new backup.
By the way if your USB sticks are less than a year old you can probably return them under warranty. Please do.
hello for first time, i have tried to make an bootable usb drive from an +5GB .iso file. i have used default settings of everything and chose my iso file and usb drive, then i pressed start button. green bar slowly progressed to ~15% and the i got "write protected" message! after that i tried and did repeat the process but now, always i am getting this error at the very beginning! i can't post full log of when this problem happened, because i have had not saved log when this happened, but this is full log of now which give me error at the beginning ....
from after that, i can perfectly fine copy the few file that rufus copied to usb drive, from usb to hdd but i can not copy anything to usb, neither i can delete anything from usb or format it!
now even "delete" is absent in right-click menu!
i am getting this damn "write-protected" error from all the programs that i have tried so far! in this picture i was trying to copy a picture file to usb V (http://ddlw.org/img/303xvz5s.jpg)
after that i thought maybe this usb drive, accidentally in the same time that i used rufus, failed due to hardware problems, so i tried another 16GB usb drive and exactly same thing happened!
so two 16GB usb drives of mine got faulty this way!
how may i correct this? (i am really frustrated.)