pbatard / rufus

The Reliable USB Formatting Utility
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Windows XP x64 Error #957

Closed KidProPlus closed 7 years ago

KidProPlus commented 7 years ago

Rufus support Windows XP perfect, But no Support Windows XP x64, Please Support Windows XP x64. I download Windows XP x64 at https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/downloads/#searchTerm=Windows&ProductFamilyId=0&Languages=en&Architectures=x64&ProductFamilyIds=140&FileExtensions=.iso&PageSize=10&PageIndex=0&FileId=0 Rufus call this ISO no bootable, but I can using this ISO file to Install on VMware normal, no problem appear.

pbatard commented 7 years ago

Please Support Windows XP x64.

Windows XP is no longer supported by Rufus

blackcrack commented 7 years ago

and Reactos ? *bg* would be bad if it's work not in reactos..

pbatard commented 7 years ago

Well, have you tried???

blackcrack commented 7 years ago

well Reactos it should later 100% XP compatieble, if you drop the support, then it is not working in Reactos, buuuutttt moooooooment *vbg* oeehhhmmm.. wow..

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by the way, if you want have themes: http://www.blackysgate.de/files/folder-root/ros/WinXP-Themes

beeeeest regards Blacky

pbatard commented 7 years ago

Reactos (...) should (be) 100% XP compatible,

Emphasis on should.

Also, the ReactOS team are fully aware that requiring Windows 2003 compatibility is a bad idea:

The current approach of pure Windows 2003 Server SP2 compatibility on user mode side is a dead end. Our target OS version is starting to become a fossil.

So it's up to ReactOS to solve the issue of non Windows 2003 compatibility, NOT Rufus, and as such I will not do anything to improve ReactOS compatibility if it involves having to support versions of Windows that Microsoft no longer supports.

But please note that this statement should not be interpreted to mean I don't want to support ReactOS.

For what is worth, I went out of my way in Rufus to add a ReactOS bootloader installation feature, so, I hope that people realize that I'm already doing what I can to support the ReactOS effort. However, as far as I'm concerned, as long as ReactOS haven't sorted the "boot ReactOS from USB on a modern system" issue, and regardless of the effort that its developers have been putting into it, it's only going to remain a toy project, due to being too impractical to test or use.

As such, the amount of effort I am willing to invest in ReactOS support, when I have more pressing things to do, will remain very limited.

Finally, I'll also point out that there is a world of difference between saying "if you are using Windows XP, then your are on your own as far as Rufus is concerned", which is all I have been doing, and dropping support for Windows XP (32-bit) altogether, which I have not done yet.

Last time I checked, Rufus worked fine on Windows XP (32-bit), and I'm not planning to drop XP support until Rufus 3.0, which is still a LONG TIME away. The only thing that I am not planning to do, ever, is add XP 64-bit support, because there wasn't enough demand for this when I still officially supported XP, and it is now an obsolete request.

blackcrack commented 7 years ago

:)

well, Reactos work together with the wine Project and i guess, they whant ever try to stay by side of the actual System of WinNT and the programmer , like i guess, want not directly hold the lines behind XP and they want, like i bet, more later, but the first milestone it is easy XP .. the Reactos it is easy a reaction by one hand because the cloused source Situation and on the other hand a free source to be in able to make much more what it is possible and what want make the User and not a Designer pay'ed from Microsoft and hold the Branded Surface what like Billyboy or something.. "we are microsoft..beep...we have own branded system..beeb..and it is Copyrighted ..beeb.. and it is cloused ..beeb .. it is a Factory secret ..beeb.." bahh.. and the 0day exploits it is also branded hea Microsoft .. this is also why it is building Reactos also and not only rebuild a specially system.. so, let us see how it self at all developed :) i be in happy i'm curios how it at all developed.. because, if you test the daily build do you see it is more under the graphical desktop as only a xp-replica ;) i have build a reactos-test-packet.iso with unattended vb and programming ide silent installer, it is running memorably really pretty well :) ( filelisting.txt )and so on.. If you test the actual Daily build want you also be memorably :)

best regards Blacky

pbatard commented 7 years ago

well, Reactos work together with the wine Project

However they do have very different goals.

they whant ever try to stay by side of the actual System of WinNT and the programmer

That's fine and all, but if, by the time they are done, Windows applications have long dropped XP support, then that effort will be wasted.

the Reactos it is easy a reaction by one hand because the cloused source Situation

I hope you do realize that you are talking to a Free Software developer, who only happened to create Rufus because he could not stand closed source software... You don't have to try to convince me that Free Software is miles better than closed source.

if you test the daily build do you see it is more under the graphical desktop as only a xp-replica

Yes, but they have broken what I consider to be a critical feature, and left it broken for years, which, IMO, is not helping rally people to their cause.

If Rufus can run on a specific OS, then, at the very least, I will expect that OS to be bootable from USB, so that you can use Rufus to create installation media or live media for that OS. Sadly, however, that is not the case for ReactOS, which makes trying to support it in Rufus a bit pointless...

By the way, this was a major issue with XP, because, unlike what is the case for Windows Vista and later, Microsoft never designed XP to be bootable from USB. This means that I had to spend about one month coming up with a bootable ISO → bootable USB conversion process for XP-32 (which isn't guaranteed to work, as it will still fail to boot on some Dell models), which was a major pain in the ass.

Thus, if by following the goal of being XP-like, ReactOS don't plan to sort their boot and run from USB issues, I'm going to continue considering ReactOS support in Rufus to be a bit pointless.

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