External editing is reported even though there is not external editing in place

[fthommen]

Problem Description

While typing in QOwnNotes (version 21.1.8, build 809, running on macOS 11 Big Sur) I am constantly bothered with notifications, that some "external editing" has happened and if I want to accept the changes (mostly w/o showing me any of these changes). There is no external editing in place. The notes are only opened with QOwnNotes and no other editor and they reside in a local folder which is not touched by any cloud client software. nextCloud/Ownloud integration is not enabled (has initially been enabed, didn't work and has since been disabled in the application settings)

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[pbek]

That's a thing macOS often does... see #1763 and others... Best turn off the external modification check.

[fthommen]

ok, will do. Thank you for your quick answer.

[pbek]

@fthommen, @proazr, @yunesj, @cls-nebadje, @minthemiddle

Could you please enable the external modification checks again and try 21.10.15?

21.10.15

• many ways to be more tolerant with externally modified notes were implemented, this should result in fewer note diff dialogs when some external process is messing with the current note
  • this mainly was a problem under macOS

[pbek]

There now is a new release, could you please test it and report if it works for you?

[pbek]

@olegbc1, @netguerrilla12, @mcmc , @marisradu, @CraftingGamerTom, @nils-se, @mid1221213, @ruapho, maybe also still relevant to you...

[pbek]

21.11.0

• if the current note wasn't edited for a while, it is now possible again that it gets updated when there were small changes

[pbek]

There now is a new release, could you please test it and report if it works for you?

[netguerrilla12]

I appreciate you continuing to work on these issues, even if they're not high priority. Unfortunately, I've decided to not continue using QOwn Notes. QON has the best UI of all of the MD notes tools I've looked at. Period. However, there were other larger issues which I couldn't get around.

The largest issues was the numerous reloads it does when I make the slightest note change. That just makes it too slow for me to use. And that was with only 5K notes imported into QON. That was less than half of my notes. I reported that issue to you elsewhere in GitHub.

The other large issue I haven't reported to you. QON recently made a huge mess of my tagging, making over 4K notes untagged. I have no idea when or how it happened and it's unlikely I can reproduce it. It would also be too time consuming to fix it. So I made the decision to move to another MD platform.

[pbek]

QON recently made a huge mess of my tagging, making over 4K notes untagged.

I imagine that could only happen if all your notes would be gone from your note folder.... Don't you have a backup from the notes.sqlite in your note folder? All tags are stored there (if you don't store them inside the note).

[netguerrilla12]

Like I said, I don't know how or when it happened. I do have backups, of course. I do a full backup monthly and a differential backup every week that I don't do a full backup. But it's no longer worth the effort to me to try this figure this out. I've already moved several thousand notes to Obsidian.

[pbek]

Yeah, of course. I was just curious, because I never had any report that someone was loosing their tags.

[pbek]

I will close this issue until there is more information.

[fthommen]

fine for me. I tested the new release and haven't seen the issue so far. However in the meantime I switched to directly work in NextCloud (that and GitLab are the only places I have MD files) and hardly use QOwnNotes locally any more. Thanks for your effort anyway

[pbek]

Thank you for your feedback. What are you using directly on Nextcloud, if I may ask? Nextcloud Notes?

[fthommen]

I'm simply using the Markdown Editor app :-)

[pbek]

Nice enough 😁 I myself like the "offline-experience" of a desktop application.