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infocom files not available anymore after upgrading to firmware 2.1 #59

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 8 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. upgrade iphone/itouch to version 2.1
2. open Frotz
3.

What is the expected output or behavior?  What do you see instead?

before the update i could play THHGTG i uploaded with MobileFinder in 
Documents/HITCHHIK.DAT
after update it is no longer available for playing  (same goes for zork files)

What version of Frotz are you using?
1.0.1

What version of iPhone/iPod Touch OS? (2.0, 2.0.1, 2.0.2)

2.1

Please provide any additional information below.

i read somewhere 2.1 has added security measures, prohibiting apps to read 
outside their 
sandbox.

http://ifones.com/apple-iphone-app-review-iphone-21-will-break-openclip-copy-and
-
paste-between-apps/
http://daringfireball.net/2008/08/raining_on_the_openclip_parade

Original issue reported on code.google.com by aiko.mas...@gmail.com on 10 Sep 2008 at 2:30

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
*sigh*  Apple sucks.

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 10 Sep 2008 at 4:33

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Now that 2.1 is out for the iPhone, I've been able to test this.  I haven't 
been able to find anyway around it.
The directories for other apps are completely unreadable by Frotz.
I figured out a hack to tell if another file exists if you know its filename 
inside another app's folder, but no 
way to actually read the file.
For now, people will have to resort to using the IFDb browser to retrieve their 
Infocom files.  :-(
I'm looking at adding in a mini ftp server or something to allow transfer to 
frotz without having to write the 
computer-side software, but that'll take some time, and it totally sucks I have 
to do this.
Apple sucks. 

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 12 Sep 2008 at 11:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
If you download Infocom files from, say, zshare via the IFDb browser, 
theoretically
they'll still work, yeah?

I could test this on 2.1 myself of course, but I've heard dodgy things about 2.1
being buggy and want to wait a few days.

Original comment by adam.dav...@gmail.com on 13 Sep 2008 at 12:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Ugh. I was enjoying the original Zork games until the 2.1 update. 

Original comment by joelsanda on 13 Sep 2008 at 4:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Yes, if you download from inside Frotz, using zshare.net or any web server you 
can host your files on, it still 
works fine in 2.1.
By the way, joselsanda -- if you go to the Bookmarks in the built-in Browser, 
the last bookmark actually links to 
a site which hosts the Infocom Zork games.   You can download them directly 
from the IFDB Browser.
You need to select the 'DOS' download links, which are ZIP files.  Frotz will 
automatically extract the story files 
form the zip files and install them. 

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 13 Sep 2008 at 4:55

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Thanks for clearing that up.

The isolated sandbox mentality is actually good for security and basically 
preventing
the iPhone becoming like a WinMo phone, so in the long run it's sound.  It's an
enormous shame that there's no way to make provision for apps like Frotz, 
though.

Original comment by adam.dav...@gmail.com on 13 Sep 2008 at 8:43

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Sweet, so the zshare transfers should still work? Good. I'll actually go ahead 
and
try upgrading now.

Original comment by jdsal...@gmail.com on 13 Sep 2008 at 4:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I am having a hard time liking Apple right now.  I understand why they felt the 
need
to do this, but could they have at least supplied the developers with the 
ability to
add a very basic ftp server in their programs through the SDK.  Has Apple 
mentioned
helping developers with this problem?

Original comment by jerry...@gmail.com on 16 Sep 2008 at 11:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
No, no help from Apple.  They haven't even acknowledged that they took away 
this functionality to my 
knowledge.

I've been looking at the FTP RFCs trying to figure out the minimum bit I'd need 
to implement to get a working 
ftp server.  It's not fun at all and not what I want to be working on.  (I'm 
thinking of charging 0.99 to recoup the 
time I have to spend on stupid issues like this.)

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 16 Sep 2008 at 8:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
@spathiwa

In comment 6 you gave me instructions for downloading the original Zork games 
using the last bookmark in 
the buit-in browser. Not sure I follow that. If you're talking about the IFDB 
browser I'm not sure what you 
mean when you say "the last bookmark actually links to a site which hosts the 
Infocom Zork games". If you 
get a chance to expand on that, great.

And, regarding Comment 11, I'd fork over some cash for the ability to connect 
to something that lets me get 
old Infocom games on the iPod. Just don't make it look like a Podcasting 
application or they'll yank it from the 
store ;-)

Original comment by joelsanda on 17 Sep 2008 at 2:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
joelsanda:  Sorry, it's actually the 2nd to last bookmark.
Go to 'Browse IFDB', press the magnifying glass icon to open the URL entry, hit 
the blue bookmarks icon, scroll to 
the bottom and tap the 2nd to last entry (which has 'infocom' in the URL).
On the page which loads, there's a blue Downloads box in the bottom right.
Click the 'DOS' link (which really links to a zip file) for each of the Zork 1, 
2, and 3 entries. 

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 17 Sep 2008 at 2:49

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Good luck with the FTP implementation. I would be willing to pay a couple 
dollars for frotz.

Original comment by jerry...@gmail.com on 17 Sep 2008 at 2:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
spathiwa: much appreciated. Brass lantern now in hand :-)

Yeah ... if you charge for a version with FTP access consider me in.

Original comment by joelsanda on 20 Sep 2008 at 3:33

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Is there a similar option to allow install of The Hitchhiker's Guide To The 
Galaxy?

Original comment by miller...@gmail.com on 21 Sep 2008 at 1:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
@miller169: 
Alas, no there is not.   All the Infocom titles are still under copyright by 
Activision.  Since Activision rereleased 
the Zork titles for free for some publicity event a few years ago, the owner of 
that site felt comfortable enough 
that he would not be prosecuted for hosting the Zork files (although he doesn't 
actually have a legal right to 
redistribute them).   No other titles have been released for free by 
Acitivsion, so no one's been brave enough to 
risk hosting them.

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 21 Sep 2008 at 4:21

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I'm trying to upload my infocom catalog to my iphone and I tried the zshare.net 
thing.  However, when I put the 
URL in the search bar of IFDB, nothing happens.  It says nothing is found and I 
cannot download the zipped 
games.  Any advice on what I am doing wrong?  Much thanks!

Original comment by zinndea...@mac.com on 22 Oct 2008 at 1:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I've zipped up mt Infocom files, and went to zshare, but Frotz tells me there 
are no
usable files in my archive. Amy ideas would be helpful.

Original comment by mjpl...@eircom.net on 9 Mar 2009 at 12:01

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
I just submitted a new version that supports direct file transfer using FTP, so 
you won't need to mess with web 
servers/zshare to transfer files to Frotz anymore.  It's awaiting approval by 
Apple.

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 2 Apr 2009 at 2:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Thank you Spathiwa, I look forward to trying it out.

Original comment by jerry...@gmail.com on 2 Apr 2009 at 8:48

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
Apple just approved 1.2; setting to Fixed.

Original comment by spath...@gmail.com on 16 Apr 2009 at 4:54

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
For the record you can download the Hitchhiker's Guide from Douglas Adams' web 
page:

http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/hhgg.z3

One of my favorites... though most of them are ;)

-mark

Original comment by mrau...@gmail.com on 31 May 2009 at 2:59