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Miro is a popular, free, and open internet TV application. It brings video channels from thousands of sources and has more free HD than any other platform.
http://www.getmiro.com/
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Is the Miro project still being developed? #439

Open petterreinholdtsen opened 8 years ago

petterreinholdtsen commented 8 years ago

Hi. Is the miro project no longer being developed?

It was dropped from Debian a few months ago because it depended on libraries being removed from Debian and because no changes had been done to the source since 2014. I also notice several lingering pull requests.

katrinleinweber commented 8 years ago

About 2 years ago, I e-mailed them and got the info that a definite discontinuation would be announced.

petterreinholdtsen commented 8 years ago

[Katrin Leinweber]

About 2 years ago, I emailed them and got the info that a definite discontinuation would be announced.

Oh. Sad to hear that.

The only answer I've gotten so far when asking if the project was being developed was "As a small non-profit organization we’re only able to offer user-led support via the Miro Forums: http://support.getmiro.com/support/discussions", which did not give much confidence in the will to keep the project alive.

But perhaps there is enough of us interested in Miro to keep it alive even if the Participatory Culture Foundation do not have the resources required to maintain it? I use miro several times a week, and have not found a suitable replacement.

The first step would be to update it to use a newer gstreamer version.

Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen

madscientist42 commented 8 years ago

It's a shame they're discontinuing it.

It's LAME that they're discontinuing it but yet haven't announced it yet.

It's even MORE LAME that Amara, which, to be honest is less useful than they believe it to be is getting all sorts of activity and this doesn't even get a proper bullet in the head.

madscientist42 commented 8 years ago

Except for the old API's that they've used that're being deprecated, it looks like they may have fixed the YouTube problem- which means except for curating the feeds, this thing is functional. Heh...maybe it's time for a fork if we're game?

madscientist42 commented 8 years ago

(They've been working on this up to 2014 as best as I can tell...which equates to maybe we move this over to the new Gstreamer, decouple it a bit from the piece that's causing the stall on start and see if it goes...)

petterreinholdtsen commented 8 years ago

[Frank Earl]

(They've been working on this up to 2014 as best as I can tell...which equates to maybe we move this over to Gstreamer, decouple it a bit from the piece that's causing the stall on start and see if it goes...)

I would be happy to contribute and reintroduce the package into Debian, if a new version with fixes to get it working with newer gstreamer is released. :)

But I lack the required spare time needed to do a fork on my own. :)

Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen

petterreinholdtsen commented 8 years ago

I had a look around, and came across https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Novacut/GStreamer1.0 which seem to be a howto for porting python code from gstreamer 0.10 to 1.0. Perhaps it will prove useful?

FasioVita commented 8 years ago

I've been using Miro every day for years, and today it stopped working out of the blue. Now Miro_Helper.exe keeps crashing and it won't download videos from Youtube anymore. I tried a fresh install on another computer, get a "File not found" error on every Youtube video.

I desperately need a new Miro, just as peterreinholdsten said there is no suitable replacement.

petterreinholdtsen commented 8 years ago

So I guess someone with time and interest need to fork the project and continue development. I lack time but got interest. Anyone got both?

tab328 commented 4 years ago

I have interest, and I suppose I have time, but I'm missing the know-how. I'm trying to update it to latest ffmpeg and such, remove windows 98 support and other unnecessary things (for me (eg: podcasts, store, websearch)), and update the ui to something more to my tastes. I can't tell if everything to build the last version is here or if I need other bits...

tab328 commented 4 years ago

Well it looks like some of the downed documentation is available on archive.org, so I'll be sorting through that. Also, python looks pretty straightforward (famous last words) so I'm gonna have a go.

petterreinholdtsen commented 4 years ago

[tab328]

Well it looks like some of the downed documentation is available on archive.org, so I'll be sorting through that. Also, python looks pretty straightforward (famous last words) so I'm gonna have a go.

I eagerly await the return of miro, and would be happy to try to get it back into Debian if you succeed. :)

For that to happen it would have to use python 3 and the multimedia stuff included in Debian.

-- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen

strypey commented 4 years ago

If anyone does get a fork of Miro as far as a usable release, can someone please put a link to it here, so others can find it?

tab328 commented 4 years ago

I definitely will when I get there, but, as you can see, I'm not the fastest car on the street, hah. Wish there was more time in a day.

tab328 commented 4 years ago

So I was working on this again, trying to wrap my head around everything. Following the build instructions, I ran into the issue that the binary kits only go to 2012 in the archive.org page, but the scripts are looking for a 2013 file. I'll of course try the older ones manually, but there's not much I can do about that. I guess I could try to contact PCF to see if they still have it by any chance. If someone else can find miro-binary-kit-win-20130311.tar.gz somewhere, please let me know.

Okay, so all the links on that archive don't actually download anything. So, no binary kits, period. I've also searched around to no avail. Again if anybody finds them or gets an answer from PCF, let me know.

petterreinholdtsen commented 1 year ago

Are there any other video RSS viewers that could do the same as Miro? I would love to have a RSS reader pointed to Invidious RSS sources to play videos.

strypey commented 1 year ago

@petterreinholdtsen

Are there any other video RSS viewers that could do the same as Miro? I would love to have a RSS reader pointed to Invidious RSS sources to play videos.

Have you looked into PeerTube and the various apps that have been developed for it? PeerTube is in many ways a realization of the vision laid out by the PCF who developed Miro.

This may also be of interest to you @tab328

petterreinholdtsen commented 1 year ago

[Danyl Strype]

Have you looked into PeerTube and the various apps that have been developed for it? PeerTube is in many ways a realization of the vision laid out by the PCF who developed Miro.

Yes. Perhaps I was unclear about which feature I miss in Miro. I liked how it would automaitcally download the RSS content videos and provide them to be offline for playing when I had the time, independent of any Internet connectivity. Peertube can not do this, as far as I know.

-- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen

strypey commented 1 year ago

@petterreinholdtsen PeerTube servers can't AFAIK. But it's possible some of the apps might be able to. Also, the entire developer community around PT is very responsive to feedback, so even if they can't, filing a feature request may well be worth your while.