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many swingley_aslin_2002 "familiar" stimuli not familiar? #21

Closed kachergis closed 2 years ago

kachergis commented 2 years ago

Some stimuli from Swingley & Aslin 2002 are incorrectly labeled as "familiar" (at least their english_stimulus_label is novel--but maybe stimulus_novelty="familiar" is just solely based on the referred to picture? If so, apologies!)

Wrongly labeled "familiar" -- all from swingley_aslin_2002 (initial sound modified)

unfamiliar <- c("gall", "mog", "pity", "raby", "tog", "opple", "yitty", "kier", "cur", "vaby")

mzettersten commented 2 years ago

I think this is intentional but it's a good one to talk through!

They are all mispronunciations of familiar words. Are they familiar? Not really. But are they novel in the same sense as novel object-label associations in word learning studies? Not really either.

So, I'm not sure - I can see arguments in both directions.

mzettersten commented 2 years ago

maybe we also want a third category for this kind of thing?

If we stick with two, I think I would tend to lean with you and change these to novel - on reflection I think that is the less confusing choice of the two, but I think it would still be a good one to talk more about.

mcfrank commented 2 years ago

yes, averaging these in is probably averaging in noise... you could mark them as "mispronunciation"? or the unhelpful "other"?

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mzettersten commented 2 years ago

ok, I changed all of the mispronounced words to "novel" and pushed the change to OSF.

This is kind of an interim solution because we only have two stimulus_noveltyoptions (novel/ familiar), but it seems like the better of the two options given current analysis goals.