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Additional data collected for indices #26

Open kellijohnson-NOAA opened 4 years ago

kellijohnson-NOAA commented 4 years ago

More survey data are available than what is currently used within VASTWestCoast. Surveys that were mentioned on 2020-08-25 include the following:

kellijohnson-NOAA commented 4 years ago

@mhaltuch can you list some surveys here that come to mind when you think about DFO and Alaska data that could help inform US West Coast species? I am guessing that this information could be helpful for species beyond hake and sablefish.

iantaylor-NOAA commented 4 years ago

Years ago @James-Thorson and Robyn Forrest were working on a project looking across regions which Jim described as follows:

integrating bottom-trawl data from non-overlapping designs, e.g.: California Current (triennial + shelf-slope), BC (many programs), Gulf of Alaska, and Eastern Bering Sea using what I call "calibration by proximity" (the assumption that survey boundaries are statistically independent of underlying biological variation)

but I don't know if it went anywhere (I don't see anything on Google Scholar).

James-Thorson commented 4 years ago

We have submitted a paper doing this for arrowtooth using the triennial and annual bottom trawls plus BC and AFSC surveys. It's mainly focused on a global synthesis of bottom trawls survey extent. I've been calling "calibration by proximity" a regression discontinuity design to link to the stats literature on the topic. I'd be happy to chat more about it offline.

Main surveys seem like

  1. Bottom trawls
  2. Hook and line
  3. Accoustixs for hake and sardine
  4. Calcofi
  5. Juvenile rockfish
  6. Newport line

I'd of course be happy to help with synthesis for any or all of those! Or fine to not be involved too

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 11:35 AM Ian Taylor notifications@github.com wrote:

Years ago @James-Thorson https://github.com/James-Thorson and Robyn Forrest were working on a project looking across regions which Jim described as follows:

integrating bottom-trawl data from non-overlapping designs, e.g.: California Current (triennial + shelf-slope), BC (many programs), Gulf of Alaska, and Eastern Bering Sea using what I call "calibration by proximity" (the assumption that survey boundaries are statistically independent of underlying biological variation)

but I don't know if it went anywhere (I don't see anything on Google Scholar).

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mhaltuch commented 4 years ago

The surveys that we have for sablefish follow, I suspect that there may be others from DFO for other target species that are not on this list.

Index

Description

Biomass (weight)

AK_DOM_FISH_LL

Alaska Domestic Longline Fishery Relative Population Weight

AK_JP_FISH_LL

Japanese Longline Fishery Weight-Per-Unit-Effort

AK_GOA_TRW

NMFS AFSC Gulf of Alaska Bottom Trawl Survey (Biomass)

AK_ST_NSEI_WPUE

State of Alaska Northern Southeast Inside Weight per Unit Effort

AK_ST_SSEI_WPUE

State of Alaska Southern Southeast Inside Weight per Unit Effort

WC_SH_SLP_TRW

NWFSC Shelf-Slope Bottom Trawl Survey Biomass (Period 1)

WC_SH_SLP_TRW1

NWFSC Shelf-Bottom Trawl Survey Biomass (Period 1)

WC_SH_SLP_TRW2

NWFSC Shelf-Bottom Trawl Survey Biomass (Period 2)

WC_SH_TRI_TRW

NWFSC Shelf-Slope Bottom Trawl Survey Biomass (Triennial years)

Abundance (numbers)

AK_COOP_LL

Alaska Cooperative Longline Survey Relative Population Numbers

DOM_LL

Alaska Domestic Longline Survey Relative Population Numbers

AK_ST_NSEI_NPUE

State of Alaska Northern Southeast Inside Numbers per Unit Effort

AK_ST_SSEI_NPUE

State of Alaska Southern Southeast Inside Numbers per Unit Effort

BC_TRAP_FISH_NUM

British Columbia Fishery NPUE

BC_TRAP_SRV_STD

British Columbia Standard Trap Survey (Numbers)

BC_TRAP_SRV_STRAT

British Columbia Stratified Random Trap Survey (Numbers)

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:00 AM Kelli Johnson notifications@github.com wrote:

@mhaltuch https://github.com/mhaltuch can you list some surveys here that come to mind when you think about DFO and Alaska data that could help inform US West Coast species? I am guessing that this information could be helpful for species beyond hake and sablefish.

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-- Cheers, Melissa

mhaltuch commented 4 years ago

This method is also what Maia used to create an index of abundance, using WC, BC, and AK surveys, for the NE Pacific sablefish OM.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:19 PM Jim Thorson notifications@github.com wrote:

We have submitted a paper doing this for arrowtooth using the triennial and annual bottom trawls plus BC and AFSC surveys. It's mainly focused on a global synthesis of bottom trawls survey extent. I've been calling "calibration by proximity" a regression discontinuity design to link to the stats literature on the topic. I'd be happy to chat more about it offline.

Main surveys seem like

  1. Bottom trawls
  2. Hook and line
  3. Accoustixs for hake and sardine
  4. Calcofi
  5. Juvenile rockfish
  6. Newport line

I'd of course be happy to help with synthesis for any or all of those! Or fine to not be involved too

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 11:35 AM Ian Taylor notifications@github.com wrote:

Years ago @James-Thorson https://github.com/James-Thorson and Robyn Forrest were working on a project looking across regions which Jim described as follows:

integrating bottom-trawl data from non-overlapping designs, e.g.: California Current (triennial + shelf-slope), BC (many programs), Gulf of Alaska, and Eastern Bering Sea using what I call "calibration by proximity" (the assumption that survey boundaries are statistically independent of underlying biological variation)

but I don't know if it went anywhere (I don't see anything on Google Scholar).

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James-Thorson commented 4 years ago

I'd still love some help completing a paper doing a simulation study showing the performance of regression discontinuity designs if anyone there has time and interest. I agree it's a good path towards integrating BC and US surveys :)

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 8:36 PM mhaltuch notifications@github.com wrote:

This method is also what Maia used to create an index of abundance, using WC, BC, and AK surveys, for the NE Pacific sablefish OM.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:19 PM Jim Thorson notifications@github.com wrote:

We have submitted a paper doing this for arrowtooth using the triennial and annual bottom trawls plus BC and AFSC surveys. It's mainly focused on a global synthesis of bottom trawls survey extent. I've been calling "calibration by proximity" a regression discontinuity design to link to the stats literature on the topic. I'd be happy to chat more about it offline.

Main surveys seem like

  1. Bottom trawls
  2. Hook and line
  3. Accoustixs for hake and sardine
  4. Calcofi
  5. Juvenile rockfish
  6. Newport line

I'd of course be happy to help with synthesis for any or all of those! Or fine to not be involved too

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 11:35 AM Ian Taylor notifications@github.com wrote:

Years ago @James-Thorson https://github.com/James-Thorson and Robyn Forrest were working on a project looking across regions which Jim described as follows:

integrating bottom-trawl data from non-overlapping designs, e.g.: California Current (triennial + shelf-slope), BC (many programs), Gulf of Alaska, and Eastern Bering Sea using what I call "calibration by proximity" (the assumption that survey boundaries are statistically independent of underlying biological variation)

but I don't know if it went anywhere (I don't see anything on Google Scholar).

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