Closed brianlangseth-NOAA closed 1 year ago
Another option to possibly try:
If combo selex is driven left and the small fish are not there that would imply lower rec devs. (Maybe you already figured that out.)
Reason for low early recdevs is unresolved. Increasing old female M reduces pattern more than anything else I've tried, but it still is there.
Ive tried all I can think of.
UPDATE: Allowing sex dependent selectivity improves
Other things based on ongoing explorations include
This unchecked tasks are described elsewhere. Closing this
From model 3_1_5_update_tri_index here are some potential explorations and the rationale for them
3_1_6 does this. Result is no change in dynamics, but combo survey selectivity shifts back to the right. This tells me that the fit to the combo survey length comps matters little. Q for the combo increases up to 0.56 and for the triennial 0.33, which I cant say is wrong but its creeping up
[x] Tune sigmaR and update bias adj - To see if recdev pattern improves in early time period 4_0_1 looks at this, but the tuned R is already at the suggested value (0.5) and the bias adjustment, matches the main pattern, but doesn't when there is the long tail of negative early devs.
[x] Check what else changed when updating triennial survey index - to better understand why going from 3_1_2 to 3_1_5 changed things.
I looked at this and the only noticeable changes were in recdevs and survey q's. Originally thought that the change in combo survey selex leftward causes lower recdevs which is biggest reason for driving down population, however model 3_1_6 results in similar selex shape as 3_1_2 and lower recdevs persist. Not entirely sure why recdevs lower
[x] Replot mixed triennial index overlayed on lognormal triennial index - to better understand why going from 3_1_2 to 3_1_5 changed things
[x] Play with weighting to adjust fits to data from the best model - To explore what the most important data source is
Did this with 4_9_X across the board. Could do fleet by fleet but that is rather endless. Main point is that length data up the scale and increase the recovery, age data lower the scale and decrease the rate of recovery. Have a slide with image showing difference across explorations in model 4_9_5_upweightLen and 4_9_8_orTWLlen1. This doesnt really inform for 2015 model but does inform the patterns we are seeing. To better compare the effect of data weighting would need to compare the individual changes before and after.
Done in 4_2_1 and result is larger recdevs in recent years, along with higher M and larger Linf. Fits are very similar. Seems to be some trade offs in rec versus non-rec
*Added a spreadsheet of tuning weights in commit dbfe837. First and foremost, the CAAL were not downweighted. Second, all areas within a fleet are given the same weight. We do not do that though most weights average together and are close. Third, NTWL ages, which were in the 2015 model, were not downweighted. All together given the new samples, especially new age samples, alongwith the new use of trip for rec instead of number of fish, comparing these is really challenging. Overall, we have higher length comp var-adj than 2015 (not downweighting as much) and higher age comp var-adj other than surveys than 2015 (also not downweighting as much).
Done. Models 335 and 336 in briding runs
Done in models 4_3_X. M choice matters. Fits improve with more decline in old females, but M-constant model does not want to change things. Breakpoint at 20 improves recdev pattern.
I also played around with estimating female and male M together with the requirement that they are the same. Model was to estimate it high, and the pattern in early rec devs is resolved, but the trajectory is all weird. I also estimated steepness to see if there is correlation with female M (which I allowed to be estimated). There was no change in estimated female M and steepness went to 0.92.