astares commented 5 years ago

On https://pharo.org/community for TWITTER currently only

the twitter account of Pharo and
the twitter account of Stef are mentioned to follow.

But we have so many other Pharo TWITTER users in our community:

I guess it would not make sense to mention each single Twitter user from the community to follow. As a community project we should also not favour single tweeting members like Stef in favour of others.

I value a lot what Stef does for the Pharo project - but many people devote their time. We have the same issue for the blogs: we should not favour single ones (see issue #4490)

So I would propose to change the community site to only include:

Official Pharo account: https://twitter.com/pharoproject
Aggregator https://twitter.com/WorldDotSt/lists/theworldofsmalltalk

The second one is an aggregator for overall ST community, included tweets from all the members of Smalltalk and primarily Pharo community and is therefore mostly about Pharo project.

If we like we can later also setup an own Twitter aggregator.

Ducasse commented 5 years ago

Would be nice to have a page that everybody can update. When I edited this page the official pharo project twitter account did not exist.

Now we should control the aggregator and the pharo board should validate this.

Ducasse commented 5 years ago

Who is behing aggregator because you see I see this tweet

Amber Smalltalk @AmberSmalltalk · 16h The latest The Amber Smalltalk Weekly! https://paper.li/AmberSmalltalk/1563139060?edition_id=f2ee6290-cf16-11e9-96a4-0cc47a0d15fd… Thanks to @esugsmalltalk

@SergeStinckwich

@stephaneducasse

smalltalk #abortionismurder

With Abortionismurder in the amberSmalltalk tweet.

Ducasse commented 5 years ago

I prefer to have a list of possible tweets and that people select the ones they want. Now the amber smalltalk tweet is banned from my list.

noha commented 5 years ago

I don‘t like the idea of an aggregator. What we want is to know what people do with pharo and not what their opinions are. A twitter account is for expressing opinions from a person. A hashtag related to a topic like pharo. So the content we are looking for a stream of things having a hashtag of #pharo or a mention of @pharoproject. Each tweet then refers to the person that has written it. And we don‘t need to control that. People are used to social media and know that it was a single person with an opinion. And we don‘t need to include amber smalltalk tweets. It is about pharo not about things being smalltalk

estebanlm commented 5 years ago

I disagree with an aggregator other than something us can control. Also, I do not care about an smalltalk aggregator. Of course I'm ok with it to exist, but a smalltalk aggregator is not a pharo aggregator (yes, it exceed and includes it, but is not the same).

And in general lines, to answer Stef, precisely today (after reading some mails in list) I was thinking as a community we should adopt what has been the "common sense" in Europe after the war, the intolerance paradox: "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

So we need to stand up agains intolerance, by not tolerating them :)

bencoman commented 5 years ago

I'm not a big twitter user, but it would seem better for https://pharo.org/community to recommend hashtags to publish/follow rather than accounts of individual community members (i.e. excepting @pharoproject account controlled by the board excepted). So perhaps the page should be updated something like... TWITTER

@pharo-project
pharo

Pharo - Community

SergeStinckwich commented 5 years ago

pharo is used for a lot of things not related to Pharo or Smalltalk.

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Ducasse commented 5 years ago

Thanks esteban And I do not want to be associated with any stupid guy promotion antiAbortion!!!

Ducasse commented 5 years ago

I changed the web page and I separated my tweeter from the official pharo and I added a list of possible tweet sources.

pharo-project / pharo

Community page should link to Official Pharoproject Twitter and Twitter Aggregator only #4491

smalltalk #abortionismurder

pharo

pharo is used for a lot of things not related to Pharo or Smalltalk.

pharo