Closed samreid closed 1 year ago
I saw this comment: https://www.compadre.org/portal/services/detail.cfm?ID=14739
High voltage applied to hand and dog Author: Axel Mellinger Posted: October 2, 2018 at 2:36PM The simulation suggests that applying 10,000 V to a hand (resistance 1 MOhm) would only result in a current of 10 mA, which would be painful but not lethal. However, human skin is a highly non-ohmic conductor. At 10,000 V, electric breakdown leads to a skin resistance that is orders of magnitude smaller than 1 MOhm. The same is true for applying 10,000 V to the dog.
I feel the simulation should be modified so that it does not give users the false impression that applying high voltage to humans and animals is safe.
Axel Mellinger Department of Physics Central Michigan University
I could not agree more, and I think we should remove the hand.
I also agree with Axel. The core of his argument is that "human skin is a highly non-ohmic conductor", which I think is why the sim shows too-low of a current when high voltage is applied to the hand. The fact that a real hand would be non-ohmic is very important (especially because we are including a non-ohmic light bulb), and also relates to the safety issue of showing the real result of applying voltage to the human body.
12/15/22 Design Meeting
We agree that the hand is somewhat problematic, but still find value in the learning goal related to measuring resistivity of biological materials. We suggest removing the hand for now, with an upcoming discussion about how this could be modified by updating the artwork or by choosing another object.
We will create a separate issue for this and have continued design discussions about how to move forward.
The hand was removed in the commits. I left in the code for creating the hand in case it is used in a different context. I'll close this issue and open a new issue about related learning goals.
In https://github.com/phetsims/circuit-construction-kit-common/issues/882, we removed the dog for reasons like:
We have similar questions about the hand. @arouinfar wrote:
@RVieyra added:
In my opinion, including the hand is hazardous for users that don't understand the context of the sim, and it should be removed. Teachers that want to meet a learning goal about the resistivity of humans can use other circuit elements in analogy.
@arouinfar can you please review and advise?