phetsims / joist

Joist is the main framework for PhET Interactive Simulations. Joist creates and displays the simulation content, home screen, navigation bar, About dialog, enables switching between tabs, and other framework-related features.
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Preferences Dialog: When only audio is some sound, simplify "Sound" text description #871

Open kathy-phet opened 2 years ago

kathy-phet commented 2 years ago

In Number Play meeting, the "Sound" text description seemed to cause some confusion when there was no UI sound or sonification. Perhaps no only hide the toggle, but also simplify the description so its more general for these case, since "Audio" will be in every sim with a preferences dialog now.

I don't quite know everyone who should weigh in on that.

jessegreenberg commented 2 years ago

@chrisklus instead of disabling user-interface sounds would you be able to disable all sound in package.json by removing

supportsSound: true

in package.json?

Then this tab in Preferences (and the whole dialog) would go away in number-play.

kathy-phet commented 2 years ago

Number Play voices the numbers and has game sounds, so I suspect this won't work.

jessegreenberg commented 2 years ago

OK got it. If the voiced numbers were the only audio we could probably do this but we need supportsSound: true to still have game sounds.

jessegreenberg commented 2 years ago

Here is the control for the case of number-play

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For the other sims where "UI sound" is disabled, maybe that description still makes sense because what plays are the custom sounds and sonifications. But Number-play also includes some synthesis.

I could imagine a few ways to handle this,

@amanda-phet @kathy-phet over to you for next steps or to bring in others from the sound team.

kathy-phet commented 2 years ago

Related to: https://github.com/phetsims/joist/issues/729

kathy-phet commented 2 years ago

Related to: https://github.com/phetsims/joist/issues/736

amanda-phet commented 2 years ago

Decision 10/20/22 for Number Play: we will put the "count aloud" feature under the Audio tab, so this discussion can be postponed.