Closed bambooforest closed 5 years ago
if I change /dⁿ/ -> /nd/, etc., we collapse a distinction in UPSID that apparently only exists in ARRERNTE
Assuming this was a typo, but just in case: do not change /dⁿ/ → /nd/. "nasal release" should always use ⁿ
after the base glyph (that is official IPA, we shouldn't try to do place-matching there, and we definitely shouldn't move the nasal marker from the right to the left side for "nasal release").
@drammock -- sorry i was in prenaslalization land! yes, i mean changing dⁿ -> dn, etc., in line with our conventions. this would not cause any loss of contrasts in the UPSID_IPA correspondences file and it would bring the Inventory ARRERNTE (UPSID 201):
https://phoible.org/inventories/view/201
more inline with Inventory Arrernte, Central (UZ 2158):
Summary:
@drammock - the immediate issue is what to do regarding the UPSID_IPA correspondences:
74 nd ⁿd nd prenasalized voiced alveolar plosive
75 dⁿ dⁿ dn nasally-released voiced alveolar plosive
https://github.com/phoible/dev/blob/master/raw-data/UPSID/UPSID_IPA_correspondences.tsv#L75-L76
if I change /dⁿ/ -> /nd/, etc., we collapse a distinction in UPSID that apparently only exists in ARRERNTE (as discussed over email and summarized for this issue below). Given that ARRERNTE doesn't have a citation in UPSID and this would bring it more in-line with with phoible conventions, I'm OK with it.
Note also open issue #61 .
Regarding prenasalization vs nasal release in phoible, there are two issues.