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hosting piccolo2d.org #248

Closed mro closed 9 years ago

mro commented 9 years ago

Originally reported on Google Code with ID 248

Will has been generously donating piccolo2d.org hosting (plus .net and .com) for ~5
years now and wants to step back.

As I think the piccolo2d.org is a good landing page IMO we should keep it.

The current website requires a webserver serving static files. The server runs a cronjob
doing svn updates every 4h.
No php/db/etc. needed. See https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/wiki/WebSiteHowTo#Deployment

Alternative: simply redirect http://piccolo2d.org/ to https://piccolo2d.googlecode.com/svn/site/index.html

What do you guys think?

Anybody stepping forward to host it? Renewal will be due 2014-06-14.

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2013-06-28 15:06:19

mro commented 9 years ago
If I remember correctly we wanted to host piccolo2d.org site content from google code
svn but either checking it all into svn was too slow and/or there wasn't enough space
available from google code for the repository to allow it.

The fact that the site is available at

https://piccolo2d.googlecode.com/svn/site/learn/index.html

is new to me (or perhaps I have forgotten); why not just implement the redirect?

Reported by heuermh on 2013-06-28 15:40:08

mro commented 9 years ago
there's 3 (maybe minor) downsides to the redirect

- lengthy urls in the address bar when browsing piccolo2d.org,
- directory links don't resolve to index.html but list the directory,
- no more 'staging' area ;-)

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2013-06-28 15:49:57

mro commented 9 years ago

Reported by heuermh on 2013-11-26 23:22:56

mro commented 9 years ago
Hello,
I was using Piccolo2D in some of my private projects and currently I'm working on a
commercial software that will use Piccolo2D to show a simple graphical scene.

I have a Linux VSP on linode.com in London, that is currently serving two web sites.
- www.anr-institute.com
- www.mueller-public.de

I would be willing to pay for the piccolo2d.org domain and setup the documentation
of piccolo2d on my server. 

Are you willing to update the Piccolo2D documentation on 
piccolo2d.org/index.html ?
Or are you going to use code.google.com Wiki for the documentation?
Do you want to change the documentation to a Wiki (like Mediawiki) or do you want to
continue to use static HTML files?

Regards, Erwin.

Reported by erwin.mueller82 on 2014-07-07 09:47:56

mro commented 9 years ago
Hello Erwin,

Sorry for not following up on this sooner.  If you are still willing to host the documentation,
the Piccolo2D project would be happy to take you up on your offer.

Unfortunately I don't actually know the details of how the rsync was set up, I just
committed documentation to the svn repository and it showed up on www.piccolo2d.org.
 This wiki page is the best we have to go on

https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/wiki/WebSiteHowTo#Deployment

Reported by heuermh on 2014-07-31 15:34:36

mro commented 9 years ago
There just never was a rsync.

However, as mentioned on https://code.google.com/p/piccolo2d/wiki/WebSiteHowTo#Deployment,
a cron job running on the webserver doing a svn update every 4h.

Does the description on the wiki page need clarification?

The piccolo2d.org served as a landing page with all the infrequently changing content
and pointed here (google code) for all 'dynamic' stuff - code, wiki, issues, tarballs.

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2014-08-08 11:09:29

mro commented 9 years ago
piccolo2d.org went to japan on september 6th:

<redacted>

Kinda sad.

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2014-09-30 08:45:19

mro commented 9 years ago
so this becomes a 'wont fix' as there's no more piccolo2d.org.

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2014-09-30 08:46:47

mro commented 9 years ago
I'm afraid WontFix applies across the board at this point.

Reported by heuermh on 2014-09-30 15:42:01

mro commented 9 years ago
P.S.: piccolo2d.net went to a domain grabber in switzerland who wants to press USD 900
and piccolo2d.com went to China. 

As they're all gone (forever and due to lack of care, I may add) I set up an unofficial
mirror on a subdomain of mine at http://piccolo2d.mro.name. The procedure of updating
remains as it ever was.

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2014-10-01 20:36:30

mro commented 9 years ago
P.P.S.: I changed some of the references to .org now pointing to .mro.name. See r1264
and r1265 and 'Links' in the 'Administer' section.

However, please consider http://piccolo2d.mro.name a mere emergency refuge so as we
have a location to point to at all. I don't claim ownership nor do I promise long-term
hosting.

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2014-10-02 08:00:34

mro commented 9 years ago
@mr0738 thank you for stepping up with a workaround.

Reported by heuermh on 2014-10-02 14:26:54

mro commented 9 years ago
I see very little publishing activity by the new owner of http://piccolo2d.org.

Maybe it's worth while to contact him and tell him about our grief having lost the
domain and kindly ask him to - if he ever wants to get rid of it - consider handing
it over to one of us in case.

What do you guys think? And if so, anybody who could help translate to japanese? Or
polish the english version?

Reported by mr0738@mro.name on 2015-01-08 17:10:14

mro commented 9 years ago
Sounds good to me; I'll start an email thread.

Reported by heuermh on 2015-01-08 19:10:47

mro commented 9 years ago

see https://groups.google.com/d/msg/piccolo2d-dev/cAnUemVUVcw/9fDh3w_FBQAJ

mro commented 9 years ago

continue at https://github.com/piccolo2d/piccolo2d.github.io/issues/4