Question about the delay of changesets to appear in OSM

[mmarchamalo]

Dear all, I am new to the community. I was trained at a meeting at University of Presov (SVK) and we mapped succesfully the trees in the campus. Now we are trying to map trees in Madrid (Spain). I have two questions:

A) We do not know if there is a time gap or delay for these new "mapcomplete-trees" to be shown in OSM Sorry if the question is too simple. I tryed to look for it in the tutorials and this forum. Just a final question, will it be a matter of "time gap for validation"? Or is is related to any tag that makes this new trees "invisible" at the usual visual scale at OSM? I send for example one tree digitized yesterday (below in ps)

B) we are just about to beguin working local challenges with High School students. Most of the topics are already Mapcomplete themes. What do you advise? a) create new themes in Mapcomplete or use existing ones? b) Link it to MapRoulette or TeachOSM? or work straight in Mapcomplete?

Best Regards! Miguel Marchamalo UPM ps-. por mmarchamalo Conjunto de cambios #136803541 Ubicación: 40,4830683, -3,6969611

[thibaultmol]

A) What you're referring to is the map tiles. These need to be generated which takes some time. In the worst case it takes 24 hours but usually it's much quicker than that. Mapcomplete will immediately show the trees because it's actually downloading the dates. While in the Openstreetmap website it needs to generate those map images. Also: There is no validation system on OSM. Once a change is made, it is effective immediately in the database.

[pietervdvn]

Hi mmarchamalo! Welcome!

Default OSM takes a few minutes to update. Hard refreshing the osm-website (press CTRL+F5) usually does the trick.

I'm really curious what you will be teaching the students and what the training was about and who organized it. Would you mind to elaborate? I'd also love to hear what topics you will be covering.

Currently, there are no integrations with TeachOSM (or HOTosm) with MapComplete to assign an area to map to a single student.

For now, I'd advise to stick to the already existing themes on MapComplete. While it is possible to create a new theme, this is rather for somewhat more experienced mappers.

(PS: feel free to write in spanish if that is more comfortable for you, we can run it through a machine translation).

[mmarchamalo]

Dear Pieter,

it is a pleasure to contact. I put in contact my colleagues Susana Sastre (spanish University coordinator) and Mikki Michalko (slovak coordinator). Mikki coordinated the training and the training handbook (https://euthmappers.gitbook.io/euthmappers-handbook/) (see Mapcomplete in the chapter https://euthmappers.gitbook.io/euthmappers-handbook/chapter-iv/open-field-mapping-activities-addressed-to-climate-change-challenges/exercise-mapping-local-climate-risks-with-a-focus-on-tree-mapping/second-step-field-mapping-with-mapcomplete)

We are now involved in an Erasmus + project, EUTHMAPPERS, aimed at promoting mapping groups among High School Students (https://euthmappers.com/)

UPM is one of the academic partners, there are 5 Secondary Schools, 3 NGOS and 3 Universities.

The training was organized by our colleagues of Univ. of Presov (Slovakia) with the collaboration of  Youthmappers SVK

During next course 2023-2024 we will develop the Work package about " Student - led Local mapping projects" (brief summary below)

We will have a first demo mapathon next June 20th with the spanish school.

Following your suggestion, we will stick to already existing themes on MapComplete (trees, benches, bicycle-life,....)

It will be a pleasure to keep the contact with you and OSM.be

Best Regards,

Miguel

Ps-.

This work package aims to achieve 3 specific objectives. Firstly, to develop 5 open-source mapping projects led by the pupils of the 5 Secondary Schools partners focused on environmental challenges based on their local context. Secondly, to engage 200 Secondary School pupils and 30 teachers in designing and delivering effective dissemination activities to promote the mapping projects at a local, national and EU level. Finally, to develop the enhanced web-based EUthmappers platform to provide a collaborative digital location for project participants and for future schools. The projects' development will be supervised by UPM and partners. The pupils will increase their environmental awareness, digital skills, data literacy, and STEM disciplines knowledge by collecting data information and processing geo-spatial data, using geo-spatial tools and digital software for the development of videos and reports. This activity will complement the pupils' exercise in spatial and critical thinking. During the co-creation of the outputs, the 30 teachers involved will improve their training methodologies and STEM knowledge. Two partner meetings will be organized to ensure high-quality activities development.

El 04/06/2023 a las 0:52, Pieter Vander Vennet escribió:

Hi mmarchamalo! Welcome!

Default OSM takes a few minutes to update. Hard refreshing the osm-website (press |CTRL|+|F5|) usually does the trick.

I'm really curious what you will be teaching the students and what the training was about and who organized it. Would you mind to elaborate? I'd also love to hear what topics you will be covering.

Currently, there are no integrations with TeachOSM (or HOTosm) with MapComplete to assign an area to map to a single student.

For now, I'd advise to stick to the already existing themes on MapComplete. While it is possible to create a new theme, this is rather for somewhat more experienced mappers.

(PS: feel free to write in spanish if that is more comfortable for you, we can run it through a machine translation).

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[pietervdvn]

This is pretty heartwarming to see all this happening!

Following your suggestion, we will stick to already existing themes on MapComplete (trees, benches, bicycle-life,....)

I think that creating a new map theme from scratch is a bit to hard for people who are just new to OpenStreetMap. It might be doable for the teachers to compose a map theme specifically for the course though, especially if there is a bit of programming- and OSM-experience around.

Would you mind joining in our chat? https://app.element.io/#/room/#MapComplete:matrix.org Alternatively, you can also email me on pietervdvn@posteo.net or join our biweekly community call on the 14th of JulyJune.

[pietervdvn]

I'm closing this issue now as the answer is questioned and the chatter about the project is taken to email.