Closed joostschouppe closed 3 years ago
A few additional notes:
bicycle=use_sidepath
on the highway line should only be used if the separately mapped bike lane is compulsory (then plus bicycle=designated
on the cycleway line) – but depending on the country or legal situation, this is often not the case. Here, where I'm living e.g. (in Berlin), only a few street-accompanying cycle tracks are compulsory to use and bicycle=use_sidepath
would then not be correct at the highway line (because I would prefer/I'm allowed to ride on the street – it's more bicycle=yes
or – better, but undocumented and currently rarely used – bicycle=optional_sidepath
).
Also, I would like to mention the cycleway:separation
scheme, which is currently under development, to map the type of buffer/protection/separation (like trees, curbs, bollards, railings etc.): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/cycleway:separation
(In addition, I would prefer to always include a directional suffix on cycleway tags, e.g. "cycleway:right=separate", but that's probably a matter of taste...).
In the "OSLO Fietsinfrastructuur" project of "Digitaal Vlaanderen", similar questions arise. Inspiration can be found in the reports and presentations here: https://data.vlaanderen.be/standaarden/standaard-in-ontwikkeling/vocabularium-en-applicatieprofiel-fietsinfrastructuur.html
From Tim Couwelier on Element, on the topic of cycleway colouring: wegcode is fairly clear on this, it's either signposted with signs like D7/D9 in which case color or material choice does not matter at all, or it's the area between two parallel stripe lines that's too narrow for car traffic. by default, that last option can only be one-way cyclelanes none of the 'suggestiestroken' hold any juridical value, but best practice is to avoid red for them (attempted to reserve that for cycleways with priority for the cyclists), it's either color (ideally oker) or some type of ground marking (i've seen 'marker nails', spaced 15x15 cm blocks, repeated cyclist symbols with 'sergeantstreep', ... fietsstraat holds - in juridical sense - zero guidelines as to 'how it should look', just the traffic signs for it are formal and now exist is both a zonal and non-zonal version (despite the latter often being placed as it it were zonal though)
2 things: 1) with the "meetfiets" we use for the colour of the cycleway 3 values: (red) coloured, faded and non-coloured 2) a cycleway (next to a parallel car road) is generally signposted with D7/D9/D10 but legally it can also be signposted with a F99-sign ... in Flanders and Brussels I still didn't see it, but in Wallonia it apparently exists -> https://www.gracq.org/actualites-du-velo/des-pistes-cyclables-non-obligatoires-grace-au-f99 -> https://wegcode.be/wetteksten/secties/kb/wegcode/100-art2
* tag to be invented? Values: "red strip", "red strip and white lines", "white lines only" * might fit with `cycleway:separation` as well
Theme now uses cycleway:seperation
for lines, might be worth using cycleway:colour
, since it's already being used.
[...] might be worth using
cycleway:colour
, since it's already being used.
It would be better to use cycleway:[<side>:]surface:colour
, because it's about the colour of the surface? These tags are also more widely used.
Implemented almost completely, apart from parking:lanes
and cycleway:surface:colour
bollards and cycle_barriers are already visualised. I would also add block, sump_buster and bus_trap
for a node with traffic lights I would consider to add the green and red time
and for a node with traffic lights I would also consider crossing:island
cycleway:both=no
)cycleway=shared_lane
)cycleway=lane
)cycleway=track
)bicycle=use_sidepath
if obligatory (de facto default in Belgium, though there is traffic sign F99 for optional paths)bicycle=optional_sidepath
if optional (common in Germany and exists in the Netherlands)cycleway=seperate
is implied if either of these two is filled in, but could be used if people don't know if the cycleway is obligatory or notNote: we will create a questionaire per side of the street, see https://github.com/pietervdvn/MapComplete/issues/401
cyclestreet
? (re-use from existing theme)lit
?maxspeed
[if "Mixed traffic", no cycleway]
width:carriageway
parking:lanes
surface
(see StreetComplete)smoothness
(see iD editor)[if shared lane, lane or track - ask based on streetside]
cycleway:surface
=* (see StreetComplete)cycleway:traffic_sign
(legal status D7, D9, D10 ) > implies segregated=yes/nocycleway:width
cycleway:smoothness
[if lane] What cycle markings are there?
cycleway:separation
as well[ if lane or track]
cycleway:buffer
(distance from curb to start of cycle lane)[if track]
cycleway:separation
: what kind of buffer is there? (trees, wall, parking strip, plants , rumble strip, curb, grass, hedge, bollards, ditch)Maybe: hazard of doors from cars that are parked
Possibly hazard:bicycle=door_zone or cycleway:doorzone