Open 0UmfHxcvx5J7JoaOhFSs5mncnisTJJ6q opened 12 months ago
fe(so|he|ga|h2|he|el)i
segafos . fegai_cs . tdfosgai_cs
./. segafos . fegai_cs . tdgai_cs
(genuine inconsistency?)seel . feelcb . tdelb
?coalgas
, coaltr
, and tdhoi_cs
differences* [ ] what is `seel . feelcb . tdelb`?
I guess I should know but to be honest, I never understood why we have stationary in the model and so I don't know what this is supposed to be. From REMIND code I understand that tdelb
is feels
-> feelb
and not the full t&d from secondary level. Also feelcb
would be just the non-heating part of buildings electricity which is incomplete. Sorry for this much cluelessness...
It is sufficient to know that it is used somewhere in REMIND.
I guess that Antoine added it after I created structuremappingIO_outputs_Industry_subsectors.csv
. If only changes to those files would have been tracked …
Question @robinhasse: is buildings/simple
used and operational?
is
buildings/simple
used and operational?
It is the only realisation that is used and operational.
Also, seel.feelcb.tdelb
likely comes from @Renato-Rodrigues as there was no differentiation of electricity back when Antoine worked on this.
It is the only realisation that is used and operational.
Ouch.
@robinhasse "stationary" is the aggregate of buildings, industry, services, etc... everything that is not moving. That was a aggregate used many years ago, when we did not want to increase the number of ces-nests too much. As it is: such things keep on living in code after they were abandoned. Anyways... regarding the feelcb it seems to me that this is what used to be feelb. I see the same entries in structuremappingIO_outputs.csv with feelcb that were used in structuremappingIO_outputs_old.csv but with feelb. That seeme to be a renaming or it is simply a bug. On the entries in the table I agree with @robertpietzcker about his remakrs about deleting unused mappings.
Thanks, Nico. It is not just a renaming. We used to only have feelb
(all electricity in buildings). Now it is the sum of feelcb
(non-heating), feelrhb
(resistive heating) and feelhpb
(heat pumps). So I actually think that seel.feelcb.tdelb
is wrong. I though that tdels
is seel
--> feels
and than we have the two links to buildings and industry tdeli
: feels
--> feeli
and tdelb
: feels
--> feelb
.
@robinhasse did I understand correctly that this increased the number of primary inputs into the overall CES-tree? If so, I recommend to strongly evaluate whether this is really necessary. Every CES-nest and -branch makes the model more difficult to calibrate.
@nicobauer, you are about two and a half years late with that admonition. And the calibration can deal with that just fine.
Also
feelcb
would be just the non-heating part of buildings electricity which is incomplete.
but is there actually a "heat pump electricity" input for 2005 in REMIND? because how would you get such a value if IEA doesn't tell you how electricity for residential splits into the different uses?
or is there some buildings-related adjustment on the IEA numbers that splits the elec going into buildings by a 10%/90% split into heat pump / other elec?
so it seems to me that (after checking it is correct) this part would need to be transferred into a new "structuremapping_IO_merged" - or how is your process proposal for this, Michaja? I would think creating a third "merged" mapping will best allow us to determine if it really produces all the right output when the two old instances are replaced by the new merged one.
My plan is to recreate the output of the outputs
mapping & code with the outputs_Industry_subsectors
mapping & code verbatim, except for the instances where they should be extended or are wrong.
but is there actually a "heat pump electricity" input for 2005 in REMIND? because how would you get such a value if IEA doesn't tell you how electricity for residential splits into the different uses?
could you briefly think about this and confirm/correct, @robinhasse ?
but is there actually a "heat pump electricity" input for 2005 in REMIND? because how would you get such a value if IEA doesn't tell you how electricity for residential splits into the different uses?
could you briefly think about this and confirm/correct, @robinhasse ?
feelcb
in f04_IO_output.cs4r
:
$ tar -Oxf /p/projects/rd3mod/inputdata/output/rev6.605_62eff8f7_remind.tgz ./f04_IO_output.cs4r | awk -F ',' '$1 !~ /^\*/ && !a[$4] ++ { print $4 }'
seliqfos
fehoi
fesoi
fesob
sesofos
seel
sehe
fedie
fehob
seliqbio
fegai
fegab
segabio
fegat
fepet
fehoi_cs
segafos
sesobio
feeli
feel
feelt
fehei
feheb
fegai_cs
feelcb
feelb
- Irrelevant to this issue.
Hm, I had thought the original question if/whether seel . feelcb . tdelb
is something that should be there or something that should in fact be different/be called differently was still relevant, because I did not get a clear idea from Robin's reactions if this is indeed needed or not.
in your list I see feelcb
and feelb
, and I currently think they should NOT both be outputs from f04_IO_output.cs4r
, but only one of the two. (based on the assumption that the IEA data cannot differentiate between the two)
Hm, I had thought the original question if/whether
seel . feelcb . tdelb
is something that should be there or something that should in fact be different/be called differently was still relevant, because I did not get a clear idea from Robin's reactions if this is indeed needed or not.
If that is the case, it applies to the output
mapping as well. I will just recreate that mapping (where industry is not concerned). So this is not relevant here.
Ok, I understand.
Is there any further support I can offer for anything in this issue, or is it mainly "finding time" ?
Nothing right now.
pushing this up again - is there any progress? if not - what are the chances this advances over the next week, and how can they be increased?
This is not going to be finished next week, and the chances of changing that are zero (short of Joshua 10:13).
thanks for the info. (and I wanted to write "weeks", not "week", but given your reply on the other issue I guess the answer remains the same
But to forward this issue in general:
- [ ] check
segafos . fegai_cs . tdfosgai_cs
./.segafos . fegai_cs . tdgai_cs
(genuine inconsistency?)
@robertpietzcker are fehoi_cs
and fegai_cs
still used?
They do appear in f04_IO_output.cs4r
(generated by calcIO()
), but in the code they only show up in ./core/sets.gms
as part of all_enty
[↑], but in no mappings. And that appears to have been the case for the last four years [↑].
So, is there some magical mechanism by which these two have an bearing on the PE-to-SE calibration, or can we just cut them?
But to forward this issue in general:
- [ ] check
segafos . fegai_cs . tdfosgai_cs
./.segafos . fegai_cs . tdgai_cs
(genuine inconsistency?)@robertpietzcker are
fehoi_cs
andfegai_cs
still used? They do appear inf04_IO_output.cs4r
(generated bycalcIO()
), but in the code they only show up in./core/sets.gms
as part ofall_enty
[↑], but in no mappings. And that appears to have been the case for the last four years [↑]. So, is there some magical mechanism by which these two have an bearing on the PE-to-SE calibration, or can we just cut them?
*poke* @robertpietzcker
Running
calcOutput("IO", subtype = "output", file = "f04_IO_output.cs4r")
once withstructuremappingIO_outputs.csv
and once withstructuremappingIO_outputs_Industry_subsectors.csv
as the mapping file yields two results: f04_IO_output.csv f04_IO_output_Industry_subsectors.csvDifferences where
outputs
andsubsectors
have different values are limited toDifferences where
outputs
has values, butsubsectors
does not:Differences where
subsectors
has values, butoutputs
does not: