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Elasticsearch is Open Source, Again #207

Open solverat opened 2 months ago

solverat commented 2 months ago

Maybe more a discussion topic than a real issue. However:

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[D.N.A] Elasticsearch and Kibana can be called Open Source again. – https://www.elastic.co/de/blog/elasticsearch-is-open-source-again

The generic data index bundle will be a must-have or even a required bundle within the pimcore ecosystem (sooner or later) and therefor we need to make sure that we are backing the right horse.

Personally, I have no real opinion on that. But since this decision is bounded to a lot of dependencies (Server-Infrastructure/DevOps, FE-Application using search engines), an official statement from PIMCORE would be awesome!

fashxp commented 1 month ago

Thx for sharing and opening the discussion! For now, our plan is to stay on Opensearch. We will check though, if support of both engines (opensearch, elasticsearch) would be possible with decent efforts and feasible.

Happy to read additional aspects and/or thoughts on this.

jdreesen commented 1 month ago

So support for both is not planned?

In our company we use Elasticsearch a lot, and switching is not easy because everything depends on https://github.com/ruflin/Elastica/, which doesn't (and probably will not) support Opensearch. This means that we would have to use both in the future, which is quite unfortunate.

fashxp commented 1 month ago

Not yet, and this also heavily depends on how Elasticsearch and Opensearch will develop in future. Right now, supporting both might be possible. But what, when they develop in different directions and are not compatible with each other anymore.

We also need to balance our resources and prioritize. If someone is willing and ready to contribute and maintain support for Elasticsearch, please let us know.

NiklasBr commented 3 weeks ago

We also have a lot of things which are not compatible with Opensearch and cannot move to it in the future. For example Pimcore still requires Elasticsearch in the E-commerce Framework Bundle:

https://github.com/pimcore/ecommerce-framework-bundle/blob/67e3b0e757c3e36b7929899cf2a588399afcbca8/composer.json#L26-L38

I vote to drop Opensearch in favour of restoring Elasticsearch.

fashxp commented 3 weeks ago

Opensearch support for E-Commerce Framework is planned until end of this year, will be shipped with 2024.4.

fashxp commented 2 weeks ago

https://www.elastic.co/events/elasticon/munich ... AWS is sponsoring an elastic event 🤔.

fashxp commented 1 week ago

Update: We further investigate to support Elasticsearch and Opensearch in parallel - for now. And it looks promising so far.

This buys us some time and we can monitor how the situation evolves. At some point, when the two technologies diverge too much, we will need to decide for one technology though.