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plamoni / SiriProxy

A (tampering) proxy server for Apple's Siri
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Alternatives for iOS7 #572

Open georg90 opened 10 years ago

georg90 commented 10 years ago

Since the other topic gets flooded, we could continue discussing options for iOS 7 here!

For now (as I see it) we only have the google/yahoo option: so ask Siri to Google/yahoo something and redirect this request to your own web server to execute commands.

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Hey, just curious about the other viable options we have? Not a fan about the implementation of the 'google/yahoo' option seems messy to me, of course its a clever option but just personally not a viable option. So that being said, are there any other options available that are not so much of a work around and more of an implementation? cheers guys!

Timvdv commented 10 years ago

Well, another option is jailbreaking you iDevice. I don't have a jailbroken device so I cannot confirm if this will work. But I think it should be possible to make Siri think it's on IOS 6 instead of IOS 7. But remember, jailbreaking is dangerous from a security perspective.

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Nah not willing to do that lol, I was considering buying a 4s on ios 6 but id prefer not too lol what about other voice applications that run through Linux or something like that? although I know that's not siri lol but is there not an alternative that's already open source that's as good as siri?

Timvdv commented 10 years ago

I recently came across this project: http://jasperproject.github.io It looks pretty decent, but I don't like the voice. I'd like to know how the voice recognition is.

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

ah it looks good, your right though, that voice is awefull, wonder if you can change it..... cheers for the info!

yanniks commented 10 years ago

I started coding a simple one (I'm going to extend it in the near future) about 1.5 weeks ago, it's web based: https://github.com/yanniks/everassist

For dictation, use the small button with the mic on your keyboard.

yanniks commented 10 years ago

And currently, it's German only, but I'll extend that.

jumper4000 commented 10 years ago

can these alternatives work with Bing instead of Yahoo/Google? At least with Bing, you don't have to unlock your phone and Siri doesn't need to launch a browser.

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Just tried using bing and it still needs to unlock the iphone...... @yanniks: I don't understand German lol but let us know when you port it to English and I'll give it a go if you like :)

jumper4000 commented 10 years ago

@X-Mort-X that's weird. Bing is Siri's default search engine. On mine, when I say "Bing", then any command, it just shows the result right there on lock screen. Try saying something like, "Bing where can I buy a TV from?"

georg90 commented 10 years ago

I tried to use bing as well, problem here is that the iPhone will not call a website to get the results, it simply does some magic inside (used wire shark) and connect to bing once, and the rest of polls is to apple servers... So they built it inside of iOS... Same when you ask for "bing some command"

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Mine does do that for some queries but not others, seems to be for some keywords it will call up a website via bing and others it's displayed in the lock screen, just depends on what I say!

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

mine does not :). Neither with Google nor with Bing... hm (iOS6)

Timvdv commented 10 years ago

Hmm, for me (IOS7) everything happens within the 'Siri' window when I search with Bing

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

iOS6 opens Bing in a browser window (like Google)

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

Best - or "closest to Siri" solution - i think - would be a voice recognizing App which is able to send out HTTP requests (open an URL with the spoken text as querry-string) to a self definable URL (raspberry), parse the response an wirte/read it.

georg90 commented 10 years ago

That's exactly what most people don't want, the key feature (my opinion) of siriproxy was the integration with Siri directly, so you can start it from any location etc. and it feels "build in" There are already some other apps doing what you describe, you just need to port these web apps to iOS..

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

Well sure, Siri is a little more usable but i think it's just a "Problem" of how the App works.

In my opinion, the WebApps you mentioned, are not pretty user friendly. You first have to start the App then push a button, push the small mic. button on the keyboard, you don't have a spoken response.... and worst of all: your requests have to start with "Google" ... or something like that.

If there is an App which you just have to start and say something (and get a spoken response)... the main difference is only that you can't use it on the lock screen.... that's all. The rest will be as comfortable as using SiriProxy...?! ...I would use something like this!

...but the proxy won't work until someone gets the original Apple cert, guzzoni is using (my opinion). ...and if you have this cert... it's because someone stole it, which makes the system kind of illegal. I've spent about 150 hours to figure out the problem with the proxy and where it breakes ....in my opinion, there is no "legal" way and no way without a jailbrake, to bring it back to work like it worked before.

georg90 commented 10 years ago

Second down point: The home button

Afk on a non jailbreaked device you cannot use the home button to trigger the app.

georg90 commented 10 years ago

Yes the web apps are complicated to use, I just wanted to say that there is already a way around it, even if it isn't as convenient as Siri Can you use the microphone with an app without the keyboard and without pressing a button?

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

No, you can't use the home button... but the "quick start" menu at the lower end of the display (how is this called?) Were is the difference in pushing a button on the display or pushing the home button? :)

I don't know anything about Apps, but i think it should be possible to use the mic without pressing a specific button (not in WebApps) ... why not?

Timvdv commented 10 years ago

Just to be clear: Is it possible to alter Siriproxy so it will a be intercepting and reading the requests?

This way most of the Siriproxy commands can still be used, only without a response.

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

No it's not. Siri needs a proper response from guzzoni to work correctly... without a valid session ID (exchanged between Siri and Guzzoni), Siri will not send out speech requests.

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

So if it's a problem with the cert.... And that's on every legit iphone running ios 7..... Can't you simply clone it in some manner a send it from the proxy itself?

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Oh and the way round the problem of pressing the button for me would be to pull apart the iphone and have a specific word that actuated a electronic switch replacing the home button all together! But obviously that would only happen if I deployed it house wide, I'd also have mic's everywhere lol

lembi0 commented 10 years ago

the cert is on the server... and if it would be "cloneable" it would be no great saftey feature, i think... :)

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Well I suppose it depends if it's designed as a safety feature lol i don't actually know the workings of siri I was just hoping to spur a moment of genius in someone lol clearly that didn't work haha, surely though, if the cert is only located on the server, then there must be authentication keys on each device? With that in mind can't a key gem be made like they use on cracked software?

X-Mort-X commented 10 years ago

Right I have been trying this voice program 'jasper'! Cannot make it work! It won't connect to the wireless at all, can't seem to pick up the ad-hoc network it supposedly broadcasts on my win7 lappy or my iphone! Getting a bit peeved lol

bgottsch commented 10 years ago

Don't know if any one saw the WWDC 14 Keynote, but there is a new home automation API with Siri integration. The info still is not much but it may be the solution Apple is providing. Also Siri has a new always-on feature where you say "Hey Siri" and it activates, which is cool to combine with automation and controlling stuff. As I mentioned, there is still a lot to learn with this new programming language and API's, so it might take a while. Also iOS 8 is not yet released so discussing about it is forbidden by Apple.

nelmedeiros commented 10 years ago

Is the the end of SiriProxy project!!— Sent from Mailbox

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Beno notifications@github.com wrote:

Don't know if any one saw the WWDC 14 Keynote, but there is a new home automation API with Siri integration. The info still is not much but it may be the solution Apple is providing. Also Siri has a new always-on feature where you say "Hey Siri" and it activates, which is cool to combine with automation and controlling stuff. As I mentioned, there is still a lot to learn with this new programming language and API's, so it might take a while. Also iOS 8 is not yet released so discussing about it is forbidden by Apple.

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/plamoni/SiriProxy/issues/572#issuecomment-44880000

hackworth commented 10 years ago

I had need for a generic voice command processor so I've completely gutted SiriProxy and created SPVoice from it. It uses SiriProxy plugins with very little modification, since I'd hate to lose all of the work I've done on plugins over the past year or two.

SPVoice can be used as either a Ruby class, for any of you Ruby programmers, and can also be used as an HTTP JSON API. I've created a fork of Siri-API configured out of the box to work with SPVoice with a few other modifications. Saying "Yahoo watch game of thrones" does exactly that. I've converted an XBMC Plugin

If you end up using it, feel free to send me some feedback!