Amersfoort CS main entrance not used

[JesseC42]

1. Description

The main entrance of Amersfoort CS is not used as the main entrance in OTP. Transfers or walking routes out of Amersfoort CS start from the walking bridge at the back/south entrance. When traveling to the north side of the train station the walk is made much longer than it actually is. Most trains arriving at Amersfoort CS stop closer to the hall way connecting to the main entrance. It also has better access possibilities like elevators and escalators. When arriving from the north/east the train stops at the platforms on the north side. However, when your destination is set at the north of the stations, OTP makes you walk to the south side first, before returning to the main entrance and go from there to the north side of the station. It would be better if the person traveling could walk towards the north entrance using the train platform.

2. Impact

The walk to the busses or final destination is longer, which can resolve in longer trips than needed. Bus transfers could be different when the walk from the train platform to the bus platform which can result in shorter transfers and trips.

3. Image

4. Reproduction

Create a trip to Amersfoort coming from either direction, using the train and depart at Amersfoort CS.

5. Example URL

http://demo.planner.plannerstack.org/?module=planner&fromPlace=52.09980965053508%2C5.131773948669434&toPlace=52.155524644727315%2C5.374685525894165&time=11%3A04am&date=10-26-2015&mode=TRANSIT%2CWALK&maxWalkDistance=750&arriveBy=true&wheelchair=false&showIntermediateStops=false&locale=en&itinIndex=1

http://demo.planner.plannerstack.org/?module=planner&fromPlace=52.257020564817154%2C6.168651580810547&toPlace=52.15553122708469%2C5.374460220336914&time=11%3A04am&date=10-26-2015&mode=TRANSIT%2CWALK&maxWalkDistance=750&arriveBy=true&wheelchair=false&showIntermediateStops=false&locale=en&itinIndex=0

[skinkie]

I am under the impression that the phase of the stop is linked upon the east corridor this gets a higher priority. Consider:

Now look at moving the startpoint:

And a bit further:

So the problem would probably be solved if @skywave would move the stop position. All depends if this might be a stop linker issue.

[JesseC42]

The incorrect latlong is used: 52.1534281144,5.37059783936.

[skinkie]

You are pointing at the bridge over the tracks. Which is the third exit.

[JesseC42]

That is the latlong in the GTFS data used for the stops. So those are pointing at the bridge.

[koch-t]

The bridge was picked on purpose back years ago, to get better stoplinking results especially with regard to transfers. This problems remains everywhere as we pick a point representation to reflect platforms with a length of 300-500 meter...

[JesseC42]

Ok. I can image this is picked on purpose for transfers, however is it not better to use the other bridge? Or what do you suggest we change, since trips leaving the station give illogical solutions when walking?

[koch-t]

Shifting points for each router-implementation characteristic is probably not a good idea. To which segment does OTP actually link to? Imo it should link to the platform-area even if it is directly on the bridge. I guess it now does this longer route because it is linked to the bridge and it thinks it can avoid one set of stairs.

[JesseC42]

I have taken another look at your screenshots from the stop linkers. It looks like they are placed exactly on the walking bridge so OTP calculates the walking routes from there. That will give a huge disadvantage to the platform which will not be used then. If that is the case, it will also give the wrong suggestion when making a transfers between platforms. Is it possible to shift the stop linkers just slightly east so that they will be separated from the walking bridge, however still close to the original position?