plasky / OzHF

0 stars 0 forks source link

Section 1: Introduction #2

Open plasky opened 4 years ago

plasky commented 4 years ago

Add issues about the introduction here

nikhil-sarin commented 4 years ago

From a brief skim so apologies if this is already in there.

[1] https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019PhRvD.100b3015S/abstract - There are plenty of other papers one can cite here. Although, have to to be careful about whether the measurement comes from the local distribution of BNS or from GW170817 alone. The former is messed up in light of GW190425. [2] https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019ApJ...880L..15M/abstract

ddobie commented 4 years ago
jade-powell commented 4 years ago
A-Graham commented 4 years ago
A-Graham commented 4 years ago

AG: Having slept on this issue, I realised that I was mistaken because the orbit is of course not moving at the speed of light; I am now thinking that you are more likely dealing with the acceleration of a non-symmetrical merger remnant as it rapidly rotates with the frequency already mentioned. Do you feel it would be apt to mention this?

plasky commented 4 years ago

@A-Graham: Thanks for the comment about EMO. Completely agree (we've had a few comments along this line...). What are your thoughts on ExMO?

To be clear, this would not be the instrument name, but is instead the name of the concept. If we build it in Australia, then I think there is still an appetite to call it OzHF. There is a subtle difference here between the name of a specific instrument and the design concept. We're trying to make this distinction primarily for political reasons.

kirkmck commented 4 years ago

I like the paper.

Something like "EMO extracts some of the most exciting physics that the ET and CE detectors will see, years before they do".

A-Graham commented 4 years ago

@A-Graham : Thanks for the comment about EMO. Completely agree (we've had a few comments along this line...). What are your thoughts on ExMO?

@plasky : ExMO sounds okay to me. It sounds like a cute creature's name, like Gizmo from Gremlins (maybe good. maybe not). Apparently EXMO is an online cryptocurrency exchange platform.

plasky commented 4 years ago

@A-Graham : Thanks for the comment about EMO. Completely agree (we've had a few comments along this line...). What are your thoughts on ExMO?

@plasky : ExMO sounds okay to me. It sounds like a cute creature's name, like Gizmo from Gremlins (maybe good. maybe not). Apparently EXMO is an online cryptocurrency exchange platform.

@A-Graham well, maybe we've found our funding source as well, then :-)

plasky commented 4 years ago

I like the paper.

* [x]  Is it important to more clearly describe the timeline of when the EMO detector is useful/viable scientifically*? My understanding is that from a scientific point of view EMO may become redundant once the CE and ET get going.

Something like "EMO extracts some of the most exciting physics that the ET and CE detectors will see, years before they do".

Thanks @kirkmck. I've added the following sentence to the end of the second paragraph of the introduction.

"To maximise scientific impact, an \EMO{} must exist simultaneously with 2.5-generation observatories, but before full-scale third-generation instruments are realised."

I'll also try to integrate this into the conclusions to make sure the point is clear.

plasky commented 4 years ago

From a brief skim so apologies if this is already in there.

* [ ]  The introduction should mention briefly that given what we think we already know about the EOS, i.e Mtov \lesssim 2.3 Msun e.g., Shibata et al. 2019 [1]. We expect a large fraction of BNS mergers to produce NS remnants that OzHF is targeting. Margalit and Metzger 2019 [2] using their measurement of Mtov (2.17Msun) estimate that up to ~79% of BNS mergers will result in a hypermassive NS while a not so negligible fraction of the rest will result in a supramassive NS, both of which are relevant to OzHF.
  Note these percentages assume a galactic BNS mass distribution so GW190425 changes things if it is a BNS. The calculation including GW190425 is not hard to perform, but it will just make things messy.

[1] https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019PhRvD.100b3015S/abstract - There are plenty of other papers one can cite here. Although, have to to be careful about whether the measurement comes from the local distribution of BNS or from GW170817 alone. The former is messed up in light of GW190425. [2] https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019ApJ...880L..15M/abstract

Thanks @nikhil-sarin. I think for the introduction, the mention of Mtov is getting a little lost in the detail for a paper like this. I'll look through section III and see if it has a more natural place there. But your comment about the 79% from Margalit and Metzger is certainly a good point: it quantifies the answer to the question that @A-Graham asked in the abstract...

kirkmck commented 4 years ago

I like the paper.

* [x]  Is it important to more clearly describe the timeline of when the EMO detector is useful/viable scientifically*? My understanding is that from a scientific point of view EMO may become redundant once the CE and ET get going.

Something like "EMO extracts some of the most exciting physics that the ET and CE detectors will see, years before they do".

Thanks @kirkmck. I've added the following sentence to the end of the second paragraph of the introduction.

"To maximise scientific impact, an \EMO{} must exist simultaneously with 2.5-generation observatories, but before full-scale third-generation instruments are realised."

I'll also try to integrate this into the conclusions to make sure the point is clear.

Thanks Paul, that is great.

PaulEasterMonash commented 4 years ago

Hi Paul, some possible suggestions for the intro:

Nangush commented 4 years ago