Spacing issues in dates output

[njbart]

In the following example, there’s an extra space between “1888” and “)” in “References”:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[UKenglish]{babel}
\usepackage[autostyle]{csquotes}
\usepackage[style=authoryear, alldates=comp, dateera=secular]{biblatex}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Linux Libertine}
\usepackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
@report{      doe,
  author    = {Doe, John},
  date      = {1777-07-17/1888-08-28},
  title     = {Title},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{document}

\section*{Text}

Blah \autocite{doe}.

\printbibliography

\end{document}

I’m not seeing this space with \usepackage[UKenglish]{babel} removed.

I’m also not seeing this space with date = {1888-08-28}.

And I’m not seeing this space with alldates=long either – however, here I get “28th Aug. 1888” which dosn’t seem “long” really.

And another spacing issue: In the following example, the “CE”s in “… BCE–… CE” dates have ever so slightly more space in front of them than they do in the other dates.

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[autostyle]{csquotes}
\usepackage[style=authoryear, alldates=comp, dateera=secular, datezeros=false, dateeraauto=1000]{biblatex}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Linux Libertine}
\usepackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}
@article{      doe,
  author    = {Doe, John},
  date      = {0014},
}
@online{      aug,
  author    = {Augustus},
  date      = {-0062-09-21/0014-08-17},
  title     = {My Life},
}
@online{      tib,
  author    = {Tiberius},
  date      = {-0041-11-14/0037-03-14},
  title     = {My Life},
}
@online{      cal,
  author    = {Caligula},
  date      = {0012-08-29/0041-01-22},
  title     = {My Life},
}
@online{      cla,
  author    = {Claudius},
  date      = {-0009-07-30/0054-10-11},
  title     = {My Life},
}
@online{      ner,
  author    = {Nero},
  date      = {0037-12-13/0068-06-07},
  title     = {My Life},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{document}

{\raggedleft

Blah \autocite{doe}.

Blah \autocite{aug}.

Blah \autocite{cal}.

Blah \autocite{cla}.

Blah \autocite{ner}.

Blah \autocite{tib}.

}
\end{document}

[plk]

Should be fixed now (need to get both biblatex and biber).

[njbart]

Looks good indeed now.

[njbart]

A few more issues, this time with “ymd” output:

• Minus sign missing in the dates of “References” items (Augustus, Caesar, Plato, Thales)
• Extra space before closing round brackets in the dates of “References” items
• Unaesthetic combination of dash and minus sign in in-text citations, e.g., “Caesar −99–−43”
  • Since a forward slash is used as range separator in “References”, it would seem best to use it in in-text citations, too.
  • Alternatively, adding a thin or half-width space before and after the dash in case it is followed by a minus sign might work (like in math mode: `$-99 - -43$).
  • However, whatever range separator is used, I feel it should be the same in both in-text citations and “References”.

Output:

Source:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[autostyle]{csquotes}
\usepackage[style=authoryear, alldates=ymd,  dateera=astronomical, datezeros=false, dateeraauto=1000, datecirca, dateuncertain, julian]{biblatex}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Linux Libertine}
\usepackage{filecontents}
\begin{filecontents}{\jobname.bib}

@online{      plato,
  author    = {Plato},
  date      = {-0424~/-0346~},
  title     = {My Life},
  addendum  = {Textbooks: 428/427 or 424/423 – 348/347 BCE; here we simply use 425 – 347 BCE},
}
@online{      jc,
  author    = {Julius Caesar},
  date      = {-0099-07-11/-0043-03-13},
  title     = {My Life},
  addendum  = {Textbooks: 13 July 100 – 15 March 44 BCE Julian},
}
@online{      aug,
  author    = {Augustus},
  date      = {-0062-09-21/0014-08-17},
  title     = {My Life},
  addendum  = {Textbooks: 23 Sep 63 BCE – 19 Aug 14 CE Julian},
}
@online{      cal,
  author    = {Caligula},
  date      = {0012-08-29/0041-01-22},
  title     = {My Life},
  addendum  = {Textbooks: 31 August 12 – 24 January 41 CE Julian},
}
@online{      tha,
  author    = {{Thales of Miletus}},
  date      = {-0584-05-22},
  title     = {Blog post: Solar eclipse today!},
  addendum  = {Textbooks: Wed 28 May 585 BCE Julian},
}
@book{        sch,
  author    = {Hartmann Schedel},
  date      = {1493-07-21},
  title     = {Liber Chronicarum},
  publisher = {Anton Koberger},
  location  = {Nuremberg},
  addendum  = {Textbooks: 12 July 1493 CE Julian},
}
\end{filecontents}
\addbibresource{\jobname.bib}
\begin{document}

\section*{Text (ymd/astro/jul<1582)}

Blah \autocite{tha}. \\
Blah \autocite{plato}. \\
Blah \autocite{jc}. Compare spaces in math mode: $-99 - -43$ \\
Blah \autocite{aug}. \\
Blah \autocite{cal}. \\
Blah \autocite{sch}.

\printbibliography

\end{document}

[plk]

Thanks for testing this - should be fixed now. I also noticed the ugly dash/minus conflict - I think settling on slash for ymd or edtf is better. Technically only requires bibaltex update but it would be nice if you could also get biber as this has just had a major internal upgrade to perl 5.24 which you shouldn't notice, functionally.

[njbart]

Hmm, with the most recent biber downloaded from https://sourceforge.net/projects/biblatex-biber/files/biblatex-biber/development/binaries/OSX_Intel/biber-darwin_x86_64.tar.gz/download I get these error messages:

$ biber -v
Could not find a suitable List::SomeUtils implementation: Can't locate List/SomeUtils/XS.pm in @INC (you may need to install the List::SomeUtils::XS module) (@INC contains: /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc CODE(0x100ef4c88) CODE(0x100f016a8)) at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Module/Runtime.pm line 317, <DATA> line 1.
Can't locate List/SomeUtils/PP.pm in @INC (you may need to install the List::SomeUtils::PP module) (@INC contains: /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc CODE(0x100ef4c88) CODE(0x100f016a8)) at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Module/Runtime.pm line 317, <DATA> line 1.
 at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/List/SomeUtils.pm line 57.
Compilation failed in require at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/List/AllUtils.pm line 13, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/List/AllUtils.pm line 13, <DATA> line 1.
Compilation failed in require at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/Config.pm line 15, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/Config.pm line 15, <DATA> line 1.
Compilation failed in require at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/LaTeX/Recode.pm line 6, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/LaTeX/Recode.pm line 6, <DATA> line 1.
Compilation failed in require at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/Utils.pm line 19, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/Utils.pm line 19, <DATA> line 1.
Compilation failed in require at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/Internals.pm line 8, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber/Internals.pm line 8, <DATA> line 1.
Compilation failed in require at /loader/HASH(0x1010e97b0)/parent.pm line 16, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/folders/1g/q9mlzlf55jxdyg5vzl4367nc0000gn/T/par-62657274/cache-5e76c0623a30635cbbdf6c426403f2e7ac90b6b6/inc/lib/Biber.pm line 5, <DATA> line 1.
Compilation failed in require at script/biber-darwin line 17, <DATA> line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at script/biber-darwin line 17, <DATA> line 1.

I’m using Mac OS X 10.10.5.

Do I need to install or upgrade anything else?

[plk]

Looks like a new dependency in 5.24 builds - should be fixed now if you pull biber again.

[njbart]

Ok, biber works again, and the output looks good.

[simifilm]

@plk If I understand this correctly, the idea is that biblatex should print a thin space, if a minus year follows a range dash. But this does not seem to work properly. At least in tests with biblatex-fiwi I always get the space, even when there is no dash in sight.

[plk]

Hmm, is this with the latest version?

[simifilm]

Yes.