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A server software for Minecraft: Bedrock Edition in PHP
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I'm retiring #6295

Closed dktapps closed 1 month ago

dktapps commented 5 months ago

It’s been a long time coming.

In the coming months, I'll be stepping down from my role in PocketMine-MP, and moving on from Minecraft.

I’ve been working on Minecraft-related projects in one form or another for almost 10 years now. I spent the last 8 of those years working on servers. However, I lost my passion for Minecraft many years ago. I haven’t actually played the game in years (these days I only launch it to test PocketMine changes). I’ve been here so long because of my personal circumstances and mental health issues, not because of interest or enjoyment in Minecraft.

However, my situation has significantly changed in recent years. This is primarily because of my job with Lifeboat Survival Games, which has empowered me to grow significantly. I cannot overstate how tremendously valuable the support of LBSG has been to me in the last few years. Nonetheless, I feel that it's time for me to move on.

My history with PocketMine-MP

I first got into PocketMine in 2016, at a time when I should have been focusing on studying, applying for university, etc. I was pouring effort into PocketMine to distract myself from the extreme pressure I was under, and from mental health issues. I’m ashamed to admit that I folded under the pressure, and found myself jobless and with nowhere to go in September 2016.

In the following 3 and a half years, I got stuck in a rut, because of crippling social anxiety and lack of money, amongst other things. I kept myself afloat financially by working for various server businesses. For the majority of this time, I struggled to make ends meet, but I felt unable to get into better work because of mental health issues. This went on until April 2020, when my money problems boiled over, and I was finally forced to make some major life changes.

I was hired by Lifeboat in April 2020 to help them migrate to PM4, implement support for new versions, and to do work on PocketMine-MP that they needed. This job has hugely benefited me, empowering me to work on improving my mental health and circumstances, while also providing me with low-stress work that I was already familiar with – PocketMine.

However, I've reached a point where I feel that working in the Minecraft space is no longer serving my best interests, and I'm ready to put it behind me.

What I've learned

I’ve learned valuable life skills, made some good friends, and learned a lot about community management – a role that I was spectacularly unfit for at the beginning – and I’d like to believe that I’m leaving this community better off than I found it.

I've also learned that coding isn't my passion. I had the most fun collaborating with friends in taking Minecraft apart to discover how it worked, and solving hard problems, not from coding PocketMine itself. I've enjoyed learning how things work my whole life, ever since I was a little kid taking clicky pens apart in school and putting them back together.

I used to idolize Mojang. However, I now know that Minecraft is developed by people that make mistakes like everyone else. I've learned not to judge people so harshly, and not to idealize people.

I know there are people in the community who idolize me, or look up to me as a role model. As I hope this wall of text makes clear, I'm just another guy that makes dumb mistakes like everyone else.

Future for PocketMine-MP

I'm not stepping down immediately. Nonetheless, the future of the project is uncertain.

I've invested a tremendous amount of effort into this project, at great personal cost. It's become the foundation stone upon which thousands of Minecraft servers have come to depend and trust. When I step down, I want to be sure that I'm leaving the project in good hands with people who respect the values that it's come to embody.

Maintaining and developing PocketMine-MP requires a significant level of commitment, responsibility and expertise. This is especially true considering that maintaining PocketMine-MP is a thankless task which doesn't pay the bills, unless you're fortunate enough to be sponsored by a business using it. Because of this, I don't foresee anyone coming in to replace me in my role of benevolent dictator. If PocketMine-MP survives my departure, it will be because of a team effort.

@IvanCraft623, @ShockedPlot7560, @TobiasGrether, @dries-c and @TwistedAsylumMC have been granted access to various parts of the code in order to perform future maintenance for game updates. However, they are not being paid to do so, and the decision of how much effort to invest is entirely theirs.

Sadly, it's easy for me to foresee a future in which all the large servers maintain their own forks, and the smaller servers die off. I hope that this doesn't happen, but it won't be my problem to solve anymore.

Future of the black cat

I'm still figuring that part out right now.

I didn't choose Minecraft. I just stumbled into it because my life came apart at the seams, and I discovered that I could make a little money from doing stuff for Minecraft servers. For various reasons, this is the first time in my life that I've had a good opportunity to decide what I actually want to do, instead of being pulled along by the flow.

The only thing I know for sure is that I don't want to do gamedev or anything to do with Minecraft. Perhaps not even software development, although it's difficult to just throw away over a decade of experience (as well as becoming one of OpenUK's top 100 OSS influencers in the UK). I want to do something impactful in the real world.

Yes, I'm 26, and I still don't have a good idea what I want to do. If you're out there reading this and don't know what you want to do either, maybe this makes you feel better :)

Thank You

There are many people I owe my gratitude to, too many to count.

Summary

After a long run, it's time for me to move on. PocketMine-MP got me through one of the most difficult times of my life, which I'll always be thankful for. I've also learned a huge amount, made friends, and gained valuable experience.

Finally – There's probably many people in this community silently struggling with mental health issues, just like me. You're not alone, and you're not crazy. Talk to someone you trust, even if you don't know how to explain properly. People who genuinely care will help you get the support you need.

geotre223 commented 5 months ago

Thank you for all those years and for what you made for community !:)

PrograMistV1 commented 5 months ago

Thank you for your contribution and inspiration to many aspiring programmers. Your work has become an unsurpassed example for many. I hope that your retirement will be an incentive for the development of those who are just starting their journey in the IT field. May you find a new direction in this world and continue to inspire others. Good luck to you in your new endeavors.

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Squashhh commented 5 months ago

Thank you for your work over the years :D

dktapps commented 5 months ago

Thanks everyone for your kind comments <3

I've long had impostor syndrome, and it's still quite bizarre to know that my work here has influenced and/or inspired so many people. I've spent a long time with my head wrapped up in my own problems, and there's been many times when I felt like I'd wasted years of my life.

Your anecdotes are a welcome reminder of the effect that this project has had on people's lives. Thank you for your anecdotes, and if I inspired you in some way, I'm very glad to hear it.

supercrafter333 commented 5 months ago

Thank you so much 🙏 You did a great work and I wish you the best for the future.

DerCooleVonDem commented 5 months ago

Hi, I'm Jonas, a student and software developer from Germany.

While I wasn't always a fan of your approach, and thought you might have been a bit strict with the pmmp community, it's sad to see you go. It's even sadder that neither I nor the community knew what was happening behind the scenes. (I understand my limited experience doesn't represent the whole community.)

This whole situation – this thread, this message – has changed my perspective on PocketMine-MP significantly. I can relate to a lot of the struggles you mentioned, like balancing real life, financial pressures, and mental health.

For years, I was stuck in an unhealthy relationship with my parents, had almost no friends, and I was isolated from others by my mom, spending most of my time alone in my room.

Well before the pandemic, my dad bought me a copy of Minecraft. However, convincing him to get the Java edition (the one everyone at school played) from the website proved difficult. He's quite cautious with online security, especially when money's involved. So, he bought the Bedrock edition because he trusted the Windows store. Funny detail of the story is that, we went to a local supermarket for the gift card with his tractor – why not, right?

Once I realized you could play on external servers in Bedrock edition, I joined a minecraft server. Back then, I knew nothing about programming or all of the "nerd stuff" some may call it 😃 – I didn't even know it existed! But seeing players curious about the server's "developers," I wanted to learn more.

I got hooked, instantly.

After researching the server I played on, I found this amazing project, PocketMine-MP. Through Google, YouTube, and old forums, I got into plugin development. Up until then, I hadn't found a real hobby. My mom forced me to do activities like music and sports, but I really hated them.

Ever since I was about three, I'd been fascinated by computers. Even at that young age I started playing around with my dads work computer. But I never knew programming was a thing.

Thanks to PocketMine-MP, I learned to program, became fluent in English (which was rough at first! – Just some basics from school), and found joy in the details of coding. I admired the people who used their computers to create fun experiences for others.

Years later, I landed a job that allows me to make money doing what I love. In my view that is all because of PocketMine-MP, because of the hours that you spend, that inspired me to get here.

So, thank you. Thank you for unknowingly changing my life drastically for the better. You showed me what I truly enjoy doing in my free time and at work. You also gave me the courage to be myself, not who others expect me to be.

In essence, this project taught me how to learn, how to focus (better than all of the therapy's I was forced to go to), and how to speak English. Looking back, it helped me escape a difficult situation and discover my passions and purpose. Thank you more than words can express.

Thank you for over ten years of PocketMine-MP. You are a legend dylan!

Flonja commented 5 months ago

Thank you for maintaining one of the most influential mcpe projects and inspiring many to create their own servers and plugins.

SalmonDE commented 5 months ago

Thank you for all you've done over the years :) There was not a single day where I wasn't amazed by your commitment to pmmp and of just how much of an integral and powerful part you are of this community. You left an ever-lasting impact on many who value your work and you as a human. While it is a bittersweet thing to see your time on pmmp come to an end, I'm happy to hear you are moving on towards new challenges. There is only love as well as respect for your decision in my heart and I sincerely hope whenever you look back on this part of your life, you will be reminded by all the nice comments.

I wish you the best for the future, Dylan

Sally <3

dktapps commented 5 months ago

@DerCooleVonDem

For years, I was stuck in an unhealthy relationship with my parents, had almost no friends, and I was isolated from others by my mom, spending most of my time alone in my room.

Yup, I can relate. Sounds like you and I have some things in common. Thanks for sharing, and I'm glad to hear that you were able to make something good come out of it :)

One thing I've noticed in my time here is that this community seems to attract troubled kids. I was no exception. I didn't write so much about it here because the OP was getting too long already (and also it's not easy to talk about publicly) but let's just say I've been through a lot of shit and I fully sympathise with anyone else who had bad childhoods too.

SenseiTarzan commented 5 months ago

@DerCooleVonDem

For years, I was stuck in an unhealthy relationship with my parents, had almost no friends, and I was isolated from others by my mom, spending most of my time alone in my room.

Yup, I can relate. Sounds like you and I have some things in common. Thanks for sharing, and I'm glad to hear that you were able to make something good come out of it :)

One thing I've noticed in my time here is that this community seems to attract troubled kids. I was no exception. I didn't write so much about it here because the OP was getting too long already (and also it's not easy to talk about publicly) but let's just say I've been through a lot of shit and I fully sympathise with anyone else who had bad childhoods too.

I have played MCPE since it came out on the phone and I use PocketMine to make my servers after SteadFast and I thank you for continuing PocketMine to make PocketMine-MP

DerCooleVonDem commented 5 months ago

@dktapps Yea, I met a lot of people in the community that went through a lot of bad stuff at young age. Wonders me why that is the case...

BenHeroPH commented 5 months ago

Thank you for your immense contributions to PocketMine-MP and for sharing your journey. your honesty and dedication have made a lasting impact on the Minecraft community. wishing you all the best in your future endeavors. take care and thank you for everything. xD

TsuckermanDev commented 5 months ago

Thank you for everything Dylan, you really did a lot for us! Good luck in the future!

KenMizz commented 5 months ago

Thank you for all these years Dylan! PocketMine is my childhood. I have met many great friends and found myself enjoying in the development of pm plugin. I wish you the best of luck on the future🥰

Wertzui123 commented 5 months ago

All I want to say is thank you so much for all the work you've done over the last 8 years, Dylan! We all know that PocketMine would not be what it is today without you.

I hope you understand how big the difference you made really is - as you said, there are literally thousands of server owners that work hour after hour every week on their pet projects using PocketMine as a basis for their infrastructure. Of course, it's sad to see you finally move on, but I can totally understand your decision and wish you all the best for the future. 💙

provsalt commented 5 months ago

Hey Dylan,

Thanks for the years you put into maintaining PocketMine, it's truly not an easy task to maintain such a complex project that it has turned into.

I remember back then when 3.0 was in alpha and that was around when I started trying PocketMine and wanting to implement my own features, PocketMine had a plugin api which allowed me to built on top of something I liked. Without knowing PocketMine, I probably won't have stumbled into the field of programming and wouldn't have an idea on what to do with my life.

I felt that the people I've found through the community has been some of the most incredibly talented people I've worked in which is really surprising since this is a block game at the end of the day.

I hope you're doing better after 2020 especially after your computer broke down for awhile.

Anyways, all the best with your future endeavors. I don't want to make this long.

WWiRRu commented 5 months ago

Love you from French skids <3

KingRainbow44 commented 5 months ago

PMMP was my childhood, and it's what eventually got me into software development. I hope that whatever you do next you find enjoyable and hopefully pays the bills for you. Thank you for everything!

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GamerMJay commented 5 months ago

Thanks for everything Dylan! <3

iSrDxv commented 5 months ago

For years I escaped my problems with various games until I met PocketMine-MP, I met several good friends who helped me escape my school problems, and I also learned that with letters you can imagine something you have in your mind. be it tools, games, libraries for developers, and make it happen with this software, and so I started my path through this community, I learned, I improved, I was bothered by code errors, and all that, but on my own, until I knew what I could ask for help, and there were communities expressly dedicated to teaching (I think), and well as time went by I had to stop making PM plugins, because my problems reached the point of no longer being able to escape and and take responsibility for it, and good. I recently returned to where I was happy, here. (I never did anything with my plugins, I never sold anything I made, it was all just learning and having fun doing it) [I'm a spanish].

I wish you the best I can wish for, a good life, without problems or any of that shit.

EverythingDev commented 5 months ago

You created the best for us , Good Luck.

dresnite commented 5 months ago

Thank you for some of the best years of my life, Dylan! I wish you all the best in your future endeavors. ❤️

kaxyum commented 5 months ago

It's true that you're not necessarily a person I appreciate, but if I'm passionate about development, it's thanks to you. You've done a lot for PMMP (some good and some bad), but I can't thank you enough for all the work you've done.

Good luck for the future.

robske110 commented 5 months ago

Hi Dylan,

thank you for the honorable mention, although I don't deserve of it. Thank you for all you have done! For singlehandedly making PocketMine-MP rise from ashes. For doing an incredible job on a technical level, including pushing a language to its absolute limits. And most importantly for this community and especially the people in it. You enabled so much in so many others. There are not many that can attribute that to themselves, be proud of that! You already did something incredibly impactful to this world. I wish you all the best with your future. I know you will continue to do great things where you'll go or end up.

Sergittos commented 5 months ago

4 years ago I didn't know what I wanted to work on, at that time I loved playing minecraft. Curious about how servers worked, I started learning how to make plugins, which inspired me to become a software developer.

Thanks for everything Dylan!

Plextora commented 5 months ago

You've done a lot of good for the community, good luck with your future endeavors!

Klaandee commented 5 months ago

Thank you for all these years and for contributing so much to this great community. You are big.

ZecolikFR commented 5 months ago

Thank you very much for having worked for years to provide a simple and efficient type of ready-to-use server and a stable API. You are a very courageous person with experience.

Steellgold commented 5 months ago

All the best for the future!

adeynes commented 5 months ago

Hey Dylan,

Thanks for everything you've done over the years. I discovered PocketMine in early 2017, during the early stages of the 3.0.0-ALPHA saga. You've always been a beacon of guidance and advice for so many young developers from all over the world taking their first steps in the world of programming. You enabled the existence of a huge MCPE community and I think you've had a significant impact on the game. It is truly admirable how far you were able to take a language like PHP. While I've moved on from Minecraft and programming in general, I look back fondly on the memories I've made, chatting and laughing on the Discord server, receiving and giving help, building plugins for the community. You made all that possible.

I wish you the best in all your future endeavors.

dktapps commented 5 months ago

Thank you everyone for the kind messages, there's too many for me to respond to all, but I see them <3

fuyutsuki commented 5 months ago

Thanks to you and the many other contributors who keep pmmp going, I found programming. Through engineering I have learned a lot while enjoying Minecraft. Thank you for all you’ve done for me.

I sincerely believe you will accomplish great things in real life. Keep moving forward with confidence.

Best regards from Japan, fuyutsuki

joaomsl commented 5 months ago

Heartfelt thanks for your unwavering dedication in keeping this project alive for so many years, and rest assured that your name will always be remembered for this remarkable achievement.

It's not just software; it's something that has made possible countless unforgettable moments in the lives of many. How many people have had years of fun on Pocketmine servers? Whether they were players or server owners, you have been a big part of everyone's journey.

You've learned a lot, and many have learned from you.

I can't even begin to count the many good memories I have of creating servers with my friends, let alone the hours spent figuring out pthreads.

I wish you lots of health and success.

From one among many in Brazil, thank you.

elchinomandaron commented 5 months ago

Not only did you earn money and disappointment with this project, you gained the admiration of several. Good luck with your future challenges.

pmCraftiR commented 5 months ago

Thanks for make me programmer :)

Kylan1940 commented 5 months ago

Hello, Dylan

2021, about three years ago, I started learning how to create a Minecraft server, and I found Pocketmine-MP. At that time, I was interested in starting my career as a Pocketmine-MP developer. From PM3 to PM5, I learned a lot of things.

Thank you for everything, Dylan

NaySurGithub commented 5 months ago

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L3ice commented 5 months ago

Hello Dylan I'm 26 yrs old just like you. I was also struggling with mental health and Minecraft was an escape for me. Now I'm having a job and trying to solve problems in real life and trying to do stuff in the real world. But I regularly checked this and was always excited when you added new things. Thanks for your hardwork! I will always remember this time and this part of my childhood :) Hope your having a good future Always remember that nothing that you learned or did is wasted, just part of your journey We still have a long time to enjoy life!

minijaham commented 5 months ago

What a ride it's been.

ahnsunggwan45 commented 5 months ago

Thank you very much for your hard work :)

anonlikes commented 4 months ago

ily dyan

archie426 commented 4 months ago

some random sent this message, to which dktapps replied. here it is for archive purposes:

This whole scene’s been a circus, and straight up, Dktapps wrecked Pocketmine-MP, turning it into his own locked-down, tough-to-maintain side show.

Since he rolled up in 2016, it’s been nothing but chaos for the MCPE/MCBE scene. Yeah, some folks are saying they got more into PM because of him, but what about all those who bounced? A whole lot of them. We've seen the community shrink big time—servers and players are dipping, and it’s on him. Remember back in 2015? This guy was out there bullying minecraftgenius76, who basically fueled the growth of hundreds of MCPE servers with his plugins.

And this dude bragged about making daily commits that did nothing more than change a semicolon. That was his so-called daily cope. Lifeboat scooped him up after he basically nuked PocketMine, saying it was for business. If they hadn’t, LBSG would’ve tanked too, so they shut down the solid Steadfast project to keep him onboard.

Let’s get real—this guy’s been a disaster for the project. But hey, after 8 years, he’s finally out. PocketMine-MP can get a fresh start, free from dictators like him.

Bet: this project’s toast without him. It’s been built all wrong, ignoring both the community and market needs. With MCBE’s user potential blowing Java Edition’s out of the water, if we’re sitting at just a tenth of Java’s server and player counts, blame Dktapps.

And for the record, a bug ain’t a feature. Dkt-sh*t 4 ever. 2016 - 15000 servers registered mainly using PocketMine-MP

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dktapps commented 4 months ago

First thing I want to address here: Yes, I was very toxic to many people back in my early days, especially in 2016-2020. (Some of them did have it coming though...) While I don't know the full list of people I owe apologies to, I'm sorry for my behaviour. All I can say is that I was stressed in a very bad situation and I took out my anger and insecurity on other people, without thinking about the effects of doing things like that as a community leader. It doesn't excuse what I did, but maybe it helps some people understand.

As for minecraftgenius76 - I don't think I ever interacted with the guy. As you said yourself, I didn't even arrive on the scene until 2016. I only recognized his name because I copy-pasted some of his old WorldEdit code in 2016 to build my own plugin for API 2.0.0 back in April 2016 or so. He doesn't have a github, and I'm pretty sure I never commented on any of his videos. Strange you should bring up him specifically though, and not one of the dozens of other people I pissed off in my time here...

As for my impact on PM - everyone was free to fork off and do their own thing with the project whenever they felt like it. In fact, this did happen many times in the past, with a long list of custom PM versions I don't even know the full extent of - Genisys, ImagicalMine, ClearSky, Elywing, Leveryl, GenisysPro, Turanic, Altay, NetherGames, etc etc. One strange thing you'll notice about these is that they are almost all dead. That's not because of me - it's because their maintainers quit and moved on with their lives.

But hey, after 8 years, he’s finally out. PocketMine-MP can get a fresh start, free from dictators like him.

No one was stopping you or anyone else from giving it a fresh start at any other time during those 8 years either. You just have to build a good enough project and convince enough big players to use it. That's what I did back when everyone was using Genisys and I founded Phoenix (now known as PMMP).

Yes, the size of the community has shrunk. The player base has also shrunk. But it's funny to me that you think I could have done that all by myself. The reality is that the actual server player base has shrunk because of changes from Mojang - the most notable being the Xbox Live requirement added in 1.2, which wiped out 90% of server player bases overnight. There's also changes to the in-game UI that make servers less visible, featured servers, BDS taking a big chunk of PM's userbase (filling a niche which PM was unsuited for anyway), and so on. You'll also notice a major increase in server activity around COVID pandemic when kids were stuck at home with nothing to do. The players still exist, they just aren't playing Minecraft anymore when they aren't stuck at home.

Did I have an effect on PM's popularity? Probably. I've never denied that the massive change of PM4 was disastrous. I own that mistake, but I can't claim credit for all of this. lol

And this dude bragged about making daily commits that did nothing more than change a semicolon. That was his so-called daily cope. Lifeboat scooped him up after he basically nuked PocketMine, saying it was for business. If they hadn’t, LBSG would’ve tanked too, so they shut down the solid Steadfast project to keep him onboard.

I have nothing to say to this except that it's hilarious and complete fiction.

Also, real classy to make an alt account to post this message...

archie426 commented 4 months ago

This whole scene’s been a circus, and straight up, Dktapps wrecked Pocketmine-MP, turning it into his own locked-down, tough-to-maintain side show.

Since he rolled up in 2016, it’s been nothing but chaos for the MCPE/MCBE scene. Yeah, some folks are saying they got more into PM because of him, but what about all those who bounced? A whole lot of them. We've seen the community shrink big time—servers and players are dipping, and it’s on him. Remember back in 2015? This guy was out there bullying minecraftgenius76, who basically fueled the growth of hundreds of MCPE servers with his plugins.

can confirm, i came back from a 8 year break as soon as Dylan retired. free PMMP!

cqdetdev commented 4 months ago

POV: dylan gets gaslit by an AI generated essay :skull:

HBIDamian commented 4 months ago

Since he rolled up in 2016, it’s been nothing but chaos for the MCPE/MCBE scene.

Fun fact: When Shoghi left (Back when I was known as "TheDeibo"), It was mainly @PEMapModder and @Intyre just doing enough to keep the lights on. Sometimes a game-breaking update would take 2+ weeks before an update that allows you to join the next current version of Minecraft came around. Intyre was even trying (in vain) to train me up to help update PocketMine too. From my point of view back then, PocketMine was on life support.

When Dylan came around, I thought: "Who's this idiot, with all his ideas and thoughts?!" Little did I know that this "idiot" was the idiot PocketMine needed to stop crawling and start running! Can't a man enjoy a nice retirement by a TV that has a gif of a beach on it in peace?! image

I hold up my mug of Yorkshire Tea up to you Dylan!

rjworks commented 4 months ago

Thanks for all your hard work Dylan! So many familiar names mentioned… PEMapModder etc. I used to play on LegionPE/PvP then got into server development around 2019/2020 until 2021 thanks to PMMP.

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MegaSpud commented 3 months ago

Dylan! I'm really grateful that I've able to get to know you through the Minecraft community over the years - for me, starting really early on from the days of the G+ community group! Thanks for your contributions to MoJira and the Minecraft community all up. Your experience and advice has been invaluable, and I've really appreciated your open and honest input. Wishing you all the best!

smartcmd commented 3 months ago

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