Open zli867 opened 2 years ago
Hi Zongrun. Could you give me more context, such as example input and output?
Hi Joel, Here is the fire I used for the experiments:
{
"fires": [{
"id": "FtN08_0406_pt",
"event_of": {
"name": "April 6 N08 pt",
"id": "FtN08_0406_pt"
},
"type": "rx",
"fuel_type": "natural",
"activity": [{
"name": "First day",
"active_areas": [{
"utc_offset": "-04:00",
"start": "2021-04-06T19:00:00",
"end": "2021-04-06T22:00:00",
"country": "USA",
"state": "GA",
"ecoregion": "southern",
"specified_points": [{
"lat": 32.5010839781243,
"lng": -84.8269438083957,
"area": 367,
"utc_offset": "-04:00"
}]
}]
}]
}]
}
What I have done is simply change the start time and end time: | start time | end time | flaming | smoldering | residual |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
10:00 | 13:00 | [0.33333182 0.33333409 0.33333409] | [0.33332029 0.33333986 0.33333986] | [0.18234348 0.34036038 0.47729614] | |
10:00 | 14:00 | [3.33331059e-01 3.33333333e-01 3.33333333e-01 2.27384346e-06] | [3.33313761e-01 3.33333333e-01 3.33333334e-01 1.95722447e-05] | [0.12899048 0.24077224 0.33764112 0.29259617] | |
10:00 | 18:00 | [3.33e-01 3.3e-01 3.3e-01 2.3e-06 1.6e-11 1.1e-16 7.2e-22 4.9e-27] | [3.3e-01 3.3e-01 3.3e-01 1.95e-05 1.15e-09 6.75e-14 3.96e-18 2.33e-22] | [0.07053569 0.13166117 0.18463184 0.15999998 0.13865426 0.1201563 0.10412616 0.09023461] | |
12:00 | 14:00 | [0.49999829 0.50000171] | [0.49998532 0.50001468] | [0.34884663 0.65115337] | |
19:00 | 22:00 | [0.33333182 0.33333409 0.33333409] | [0.33332029 0.33333986 0.33333986] | [0.18234348 0.34036038 0.47729614] |
What I found is:
Hi Zongrun,
If ignition_start
and ignition_end
aren't specified, then ignition_start
is set to start
and ignition_end
is set to either 3 hours after start
or to end
, whichever is earlier. I think that would explain why flaming and smoldering values are non-negligible only in the first three hours. So, if you expect flaming for more than 3 hours, set ignition_start
and ignition_end
accordingly. I'll talk to my colleagues to make sure this behavior is desired, and I'll also try to get someone to review the FEPS logic in general. We are in the lead-up to pre fire season training, which is a very busy time for our team, so we probably won't do a thorough review anytime in the next few weeks, but I will bring it up today.
Hi Joel,
Thanks for your help. I have tried to add ignition_start
and ignition_end
in my input. The flaming and smoldering starts at ignition_start
and end at ignition_end
. The fractions of flaming and smoldering are a same value in each hour. It seems like the fraction is calculated by: 1/(ignition_end - ignition_start). The equation is used for rx
. For wildfire, the fraction is not uniform. The residual for both rx and wf seems have more complex behavior (the fractions are not uniform during the fire event). I guess the model treats the timeprofile of prescribed burning as a constant function while uses feps for wildfire.
Hi Zongrun. I'm not an expert in the science behind timeprofiling, and so I reached out to some colleagues who are going to help with verifying that FEPS behavior and output are correct. Unfortunately, I don't have input and expected output data to use in unit testing. So, I'll generate example data and ask them to review the code.
Hi Zongrun, I talked to one colleague who confirmed that flaming, and probably also smoldering, are expected to be flat (same fraction each hour from ignition start to end) for Rx burns. We're still planning on a more detailed review, though that won't happen for at least a few weeks.
Hi Joel, I have tried several start time and end time of a prescribed burning. The outputs of flaming fractions and smoldering fractions do not sensitive to the duration and start time: e.g.: a fire lasts 2 hours, flaming and smoldering fractions are: [0.5, 0.5] a fire lasts 3 hours, flaming and smoldering fractions are: [0.33, 0.33, 0.33] a fire lasts more than 3 hours, flaming and smoldering fractions are: [0.33, 0.33, 0.33] While the long term smoldering is related to the duration of fire. Are these assumptions of prescribed burnings?