podlove / podlove-publisher

Podlove Podcast Publisher for WordPress
https://wordpress.org/plugins/podlove-podcasting-plugin-for-wordpress/
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Add show notes as related link #19

Closed ghost closed 11 years ago

ghost commented 11 years ago

Just identified an issue with show notes. Sometimes show notes are too long to add them to the feed as an inline item (Wikigeeks e.g. http://wikigeeks.de/201301/wg041-jenseits-des-krauts/). It would be great if the publisher could generate a simple HTML page (unstyled) that contains only those show notes and link them as related item to the rss item entry. This way a client could load the show notes on demand.

eteubert commented 11 years ago

Is there a spec for this? What's the rel? What's an example page source?

gglnx commented 11 years ago

On anyca.st I'm using rel="shownotes"

<atom:link rel="shownotes" href="https://anyca.st/2013/030-ein-pferd-im-galopp-hat-eine-schrittlange-von-vier-metern/shownotes" type="text/html" />

hoersuppe.de says also rel="shownotes": http://hoersuppe.de/2012/08/24/shownotes-ja-bitte/

ghost commented 11 years ago

I guess something along the lines of

<atom:link rel="related" type="text/html" href="shownotes.html" />

would be sufficient. rel="shownotes" is not really defined.

However we could also come up with a URI same as we did with deeplinks and simple chapters.

<atom:link rel="http://podlove.org/shownotes" type="text/html" href="shownotes.html" />

What do you think?

Kambfhase commented 11 years ago

Why not use `type="text/x-osf"?

ghost commented 11 years ago

Then every client would need an OSF renderer. Better to distribute simple HTML. Just add a client specific CSS and you're done.

gglnx commented 11 years ago

+1 for rel="http://podlove.org/shownotes"

eteubert commented 11 years ago

I think I'll start with @vemedio's suggestion: <atom:link rel="http://podlove.org/shownotes" type="text/html" href="shownotes.html" />

martinhering commented 11 years ago

Any news on that? Instacast is still just displaying the plain-text description for a lot of podlove published podcasts.

eteubert commented 11 years ago

Shownotes integration is still work in progress. As far as I know @SimonWaldherr is working on it but I don't know if there is any timeline.

SimonWaldherr commented 11 years ago

There is a (OSF) Shownotes Plugin for Wordpress availible, which i made for Tim. Also i made a Shownotes PPP Module. When the Plugin is ready for a wider audience, i'll integrate it in the PPP (with Asset Support).

martinhering commented 11 years ago

I still propose the atom link for show notes. Don't try to reinvent the wheel. Make it simple first and iterate over it later. This is the first rule of shipping!

eteubert commented 11 years ago

As of now, shownotes are not a part of the Publisher. @SimonWaldherr I suggest you add the atom link I mentioned above in your shownotes plugin/module.