Plieuw
commented
2 years ago This would be great
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Plieuw
commented
2 years ago This would be great
Undistraction
commented
1 year ago As an additional request, it would be nice to allow fills to draw from not just a scale, but a user-defined selection of notes (possibly spanning multiple octaves).
tobia
commented
8 months ago I just came in here to say that, for full microtonal support, the tuning files should be able to specify the entire list of notes, which can be much more that 128 and do not necessarily repeat by octave; as well as one (or more?) pad layouts that map pads onto notes.
Additionally, the tuning should specify what happens when the user hits Shift+Jog to adjust a note by "octave", since alternative tunings do not necessarily repeat by octave, nor by 12 steps. Same for adjusting the pad layout "octave".
A few examples follow.
Taking this as the standard 12edo MIDI scale:
Name Cents MIDI Note MIDI Bend
----- ------- --------- ---------
C0 0.00 (C0) 12 0
C#0 100.00 (C#0) 13 0
D0 200.00 (D0) 14 0
D#0 300.00 (D#0) 15 0
E0 400.00 (E0) 16 0
F0 500.00 (F0) 17 0
F#0 600.00 (F#0) 18 0
G0 700.00 (G0) 19 0
G#0 800.00 (G#0) 20 0
A0 900.00 (A0) 21 0
A#0 1000.00 (A#0) 22 0
B0 1100.00 (B0) 23 0
C1 1200.00 (C1) 24 0One may want to use a Bohlen–Pierce EQ scale which has the following notes:
Name Cents MIDI Note MIDI Bend
----- ------- --------- ---------
C0 0.00 (C0) 12 0
C#0 146.30 (C#0) 13 1896
D0 292.61 (D#0) 15 -303
E0 438.91 (E0) 16 1594
F0 585.22 (F#0) 18 -605
F#0 731.52 (G0) 19 1291
G0 877.83 (A0) 21 -908
H0 1024.13 (A#0) 22 988
H#0 1170.44 (C1) 24 -1211
J0 1316.74 (C#1) 25 686
A0 1463.05 (D#1) 27 -1513
A#0 1609.35 (E1) 28 383
B0 1755.66 (F#1) 30 -1816
C1 1901.96 (G1) 31 80Notice this scale has names like "H" and "J" and it does not repeat by octave. If we start this scale's "C0" with MIDI Note (C0), then its "C1" is close to MIDI (G1), not (C1).
Another example, a 19 equal temperament scale has the following notes:
Name Cents MIDI Note MIDI Bend
----- ------- --------- ---------
C-0 0.00 (C0) 12 0
C#0 63.16 (C#0) 13 -1509
Db0 126.32 (C#0) 13 1078
D-0 189.48 (D0) 14 -431
D#0 252.64 (D#0) 15 -1940
Eb0 315.80 (D#0) 15 647
E-0 378.96 (E0) 16 -862
E#0 442.12 (E0) 16 1725
F-0 505.28 (F0) 17 216
F#0 568.44 (F#0) 18 -1293
Gb0 631.60 (F#0) 18 1294
G-0 694.76 (G0) 19 -215
G#0 757.92 (G#0) 20 -1724
Ab0 821.08 (G#0) 20 863
A-0 884.24 (A0) 21 -646
A#0 947.40 (A0) 21 1942
Bb0 1010.56 (A#0) 22 433
B-0 1073.72 (B0) 23 -1076
B#0 1136.88 (B0) 23 1511
C-1 1200.00 (C1) 24 0Notice in this case the scale does repeat by octave, but it has more than 12 notes per octave, because most pairs like "C#" and "Db" are distinct.
It gets even more complicated with scales such as 53 equal temperament, where not only G# ≠ Ab, but there are 10 notes just between G and A, with different naming conventions that get harder and harder to squeeze into 2 or 3 ASCII characters:
Diatonic: G G# GX GX# GXX ABB ABb AB Ab A
Pythagorean: G FX EX# BBb Ab G# FX# CBb BB A
Ups and downs: G G^ G^^ Abv Ab G# G#^ Avv Av AFinally, I should note that a great resource to generate and inspect scales is Sevish's Scale Workshop.
A new feature
Like OpenMPT, renoise and other modern trackers they have support for microtonal scales to be loaded, I think this would be an amazing feature to also add into the polyend tracker.
Right now i have to manually lookup each finetune setting for the specific note using software on my computer and add the finetune step FX myself by hand. this is really slow and painfull to do, With the option to just load a tuning scale in the config menu just like how u can do that for 12 TET scales like minor/major/phrygian etc.